Differences between a 1500 and a 2500
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I have personally seen a number of the 2500 LD's even though they are some rare beasts. All were 8-lug half ton axles one was even a 1994. In first gen dodges, earlier fords, and GM's, a large number of the 3/4 ton trucks had 8-lug (big bearing) Dana 44's and an 8-lug semi floating rear or a FF dana 60. Dodge had the 8-lug chrysler 9.25 and GM has the 9.5" semi floating 14-bolt (don't know what axle for Ford). The LD 2500's were 7400# GVWR while the HD's were #8600 GVWR (either one may be off 200lbs).
Chevrolet used the 9.5" corporate axle you mention, with both 6 lug (early GMT400) and 8 lug patterns under the light 3/4, and the 6-lug variant under the heavy 1/2 (differing from the light 3/4 by badge). They also did weird things like stuffing that turd of a diesel in the half tons. Most often, the 9.5" was accompanied by the 350 engine and 700R4 or 4L60trans in GMT400 series trucks, while the 454 was followed by the 4L80 and 10.5". The exception were 1-ton trucks with the 350, which still used the heavier running gear.
Originally Posted by HeyYou
Full floating: Axle only transfers power, supports no weight. (99% of 4x4 front ends fall into this category.)
Semi-Floating: One end the axle actually supports weight. Typical of most half ton trucks, and almost all live axle, rear wheel drive cars.
Non-floating: These are found at the bottom of some body of water.
Semi-Floating: One end the axle actually supports weight. Typical of most half ton trucks, and almost all live axle, rear wheel drive cars.
Non-floating: These are found at the bottom of some body of water.
The simplest definition is:
Full Floating: Bearings do not contact axle. FF axles are retained by bolts to the hub assembly, Bearings ride on a spindle and are retained by a single hub nut
Semi-Floating: Axle rides on bearings; The axle shaft itself is the inner bearing race. Semi-floater axles are retained by a C-clip in the carrier. Bearings are retained with a pressed fit in the axle housing.
Non-Floating: Bearings (or at least inner race) are pressed onto axle shaft and usually also have a retaining snap-ring. Non-floating axles are retained by a plate in front of the bearings that bolts to the axle housing flange.
Full-Floating and Non-Floating designs can either have a 3rd member design or use a cast housing. Semi-floating designs do not use 3rd member designs.
Originally Posted by HeyYou
Typical of most half ton trucks, and almost all live axle, rear wheel drive cars.
But go back to the 60's and early 70's, Semi-floating axles were practically non-existant. The GM 12-bolt was one of the first. Chrysler used the 8-3/4 until 1976, Ford retained the 9" until 1980. My '78 Aspen has that non-floating 9-bolt 7-1/4" unit (yes, it's still taking abuse from the 440).
And, of course, there are the oddballs, like Land Rover, which use a full-floating 3rd member rear with giant 5-lug bolt patterns (and equally large wheel studs) with 5 bolt axle flanges.
On 3/4 ton trucks, the standard for many years with Domestics was the 8-lug Dana 60 full floating Rear. GM broke trend first with the 10.5" Corporate, followed by Ford with the Sterlings in (I think) 1985, though F-350 Dually Super-Duty's still use a Dana 80. Chrysler had the longest relationship with Dana, not straying until 2003, when they went to the 10.5" and monstrous 11.5" AAM axles.
To the OP-
Most of the differences have been well illustrated. But to consolidate and summarize:
3/4 ton has-
-Heavier frame
-Stiffer springs
-Heavy duty trans and T-case
-Larger axles*
*As was illustrated, early light 3/4 tons were basically half-tons with 8 lug versions of the standard 1/2 ton axles. The standard 3/4 ton all have Dana 60 front, but the rear could be a Dana 60 under V-8 powered trucks, Dana 70 under Diesel and V-10 trucks, and Dana 80 under heavy duty 3/4 ton with tow & plow package.
Last edited by Sixtysixdeuce; 11-16-2010 at 06:34 AM.
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I can find zero information on it either...... Vin code will only tell GVWR, not the number of lugnuts. I am thinking the LD 2500, the 4th digit of the vin will be J, or K. For the heavy version (that will be eight lug....) should be K.
According to all info I can find, the light duty 3/4 tons still had the dana 44 up front, and the chrysler 9.25 out back. No different than what the half tons have.
I think the only way you are going to know for sure, is to actually go and look in person, get the vin, and have at it.
Here is a good resource for checking things quickly.
According to all info I can find, the light duty 3/4 tons still had the dana 44 up front, and the chrysler 9.25 out back. No different than what the half tons have.
I think the only way you are going to know for sure, is to actually go and look in person, get the vin, and have at it.
Here is a good resource for checking things quickly.
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Oh, and the LD 3/4 tons with the 9.25 & 44; they aren't just 8 lug; They use larger diameter axle shafts and bearings in the rear as well. It's an HD 9.25".
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47 or 48, as opposed to the 45 and 46 in half tons. For manuals, half tons run the NV3500 or 3550, while 3/4 and one ton use NV4500 or NV5600 (and those P.O.S, overdrive-shredding Getrag and ZF transmissions in the newer trucks. Barf)
Oh, and the LD 3/4 tons with the 9.25 & 44; they aren't just 8 lug; They use larger diameter axle shafts and bearings in the rear as well. It's an HD 9.25".
Oh, and the LD 3/4 tons with the 9.25 & 44; they aren't just 8 lug; They use larger diameter axle shafts and bearings in the rear as well. It's an HD 9.25".
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