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Old 01-20-2011, 09:16 PM
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Maybe PCM issue, from service manual.

OPERATION
The fuel pump module has 4 different circuits
(wires). Two of these circuits are used for the fuel
gauge sending unit for fuel gauge operation, and for
certain OBD II emission requirements. The other 2
wires are used for electric fuel pump operation.
For Fuel Gauge Operation:
A constant current
source of about 32 mA is supplied to the resistor
track on the fuel gauge sending unit. This is fed
directly from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
The resistor track is used to vary the voltage depending
on fuel tank float level. As fuel level increases,
the float and arm move up, which decreases voltage.
As fuel level decreases, the float and arm move
down, which increases voltage. The varied voltage
signal is returned back to the PCM through the sensor
return circuit. Output voltages will vary from
about .6 volts at FULL, to about 8.6 volts at EMPTY
(Jeep models), or, about 7.0 volts at EMPTY (Dodge
Truck models).
NOTE: For diagnostic purposes,
this voltage can only be verified with the fuel
gauge sending unit circuit closed (i.e. having all
of the sending units electrical connectors connected).

FUEL FILTER/PRESSURE REGULATOR (Continued)
Both of the electrical circuits between the fuel
gauge sending unit and the PCM are hard-wired (not
multi-plexed). After the voltage signal is sent from
the resistor track, and back to the PCM, the PCM
will interpret the resistance (voltage) data and send
a message across the multi-plex bus circuits to the
instrument panel cluster. Here it is translated into
the appropriate fuel gauge level reading. Refer to
Instrument Panel for additional information.
For OBD II Emission Monitor Requirements:
The PCM will monitor the voltage output sent from
the resistor track on the sending unit to indicate fuel
level. The purpose of this feature is to prevent the
OBD II system from recording/setting false misfire
and fuel system monitor diagnostic trouble codes.
The feature is activated if the fuel level in the tank
is less than approximately 15 percent of its rated
capacity. If equipped with a Leak Detection Pump
(EVAP system monitor), this feature will also be activated
if the fuel level in the tank is more than
approximately 85 percent of its rated capacity.
DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - FUEL GAUGE
SENDING UNIT
The fuel gauge sending unit contains a variable
resistor (track). As the float moves up or down, electrical
resistance will change. Refer to 8, Instrument
Panel and Gauges for Fuel Gauge testing. To test the
gauge sending unit only, it must be removed from
vehicle. The unit is part of the fuel pump module.
Refer to Fuel Pump Module Removal/Installation for
procedures. Measure the resistance across the sending
unit terminals. With float in up position, resistance
should be 20 ohms
66 ohms. With float in
down position, resistance should be 220 ohms
66
ohms.

 
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chardy86
i was told about this valve i depressed the valve with a ink pen i did not get any fuel just some air

each key off/key on cycle should operate the fuel pump for 3 seconds which will prime the fuel line.

if there is no fuel at the test port, then the fuel pump is not working.
that could be accidental, or - it could be not working due to ASD shutdown.

with key on, test for 12volt at the coil. i'm not sure if this remains on constant, or if you only get the same 3 second shot like the fuel pump does. i think its constant. if no 12v, then you have a PCM/ASD shutdown.

search for cmmckenna (spelling?) threads on testing for 12v at the fuel pump.
 



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