Anytime I'm looking for something cheaper I go to ebay and look if i cant find anything then I go to google > search the product > and got to shopping > and see who is the cheapest...with shipping amazon was the cheapest I could find. surprised it was cheaper then ebay.

this might also be a dumb question but what do you mean.

 

My gorillas are solid(pretty sure they all are), I know this because I had to grind through one, I bought regular nuts with 4 locking nuts then again I have cheap rims and tires.

If your worried about them being solid or not just call, and not a bad idea on all locking nuts, and I wouldnt cheap out on lug nuts, get the gorillas and be done, seen to many autozone specials strip only to have a tire come off

Pretty sure he was talking about the Key number, when you get the nuts, it will have a little card so if you lose the key you can order another instead of buying new lugs

 

see the bottom of this page.
there are a large number of different spacing patterns for the slots.
each has a "security key code number".
and each has its own socket.

 

ok thanks for all the info...I'm probably going to go with the gorilla one's.

 

Now, I'm looking at McGard lug nuts, because after calling gorilla twice on which type of lug nut to get, I called dick cepek and they said I can't use gorilla, use McGard, so I called them and the guy told me which kind I needed for my rims. Now I looking for them cheapest, so far including shipping the cheapest is streetsideauto $63.91. What do you guys think of McGard????

 

my personal opinion is that $64 is too damn much to pay for lug nuts. you could get 4 lockers for a lot less and just put one on each wheel.

i don't believe the story that you can't use gorilla's. why not ?

 

Sorry I didn't say it completely, the $64 is for one set of 4 locking lugs and the rest regular lugs, so one locking for each rim and regulars for the rest.

I didn't either, but I told the the guy from mcgards I was planning on getting gorillas and he went on and told me how mcgards are US made and gorillas are from China and putting 20 locking on is a bad idea. no matter where I get them from. But, I don't think he was just doing a sales pitch because he even said I can buy the mcgards from them but it will be cheaper to go to summitracing or amazon or something like that.

 

I have gorilla lug nuts and there is nothing cheap about them, they will destroy the stud if you try to put them on wrong, cheap lug nuts will just strip out

I cringed when I spent $36 on lugnuts if its not going to any races anytime soon I see no reason to spend 60+ on lug nuts

 

the guy who told you gorillas wouldn't work and then hyped his own product was a liar.

also check walmart. they might be cheapest.

4 open end lockers, $11
http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automo...7131234&sr=1-7

4 closed end acorn style $16
http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automo...131234&sr=1-17

not sure why these are $15. check part number difference on gorilla web site.
make sure you get the socket.
http://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Automo...131234&sr=1-21

mcgard's are ugly. about the same price.
http://www.amazon.com/McGard-24194-C...132250&sr=1-11

 

I agree with you about mcgards being ugly. I think when I have a chance tomorrow I'm goning to give some local part stops a call and see if I can find some gorillas and just buy a pack of non-locking just to make sure they will fit with my rims. And if they don't, $10 I lost instead of ordering them all. I do have probably a week or two or more until I need to put the rims on the truck anyway.