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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Im currently in the middle of the same thing, I did the plenum fix from Hughes, modded intake, cut TB horns, 180 thermostat, front O2, and timing chain. I also went with a new cam (low end, towing type) from Hughes #9204 since is was an extra $100 after the core return. Hoping this will improve mileage a bit. "while your in there..."

I would also recommend a new coolant temp sensor since the fuel economy is also based on this (along with the O2 sensors). Also get a decent set of plugs while you're doing the cap, rotor, wires, coil...

I also had my heads off, and decided on rings and rod bearings. pan gasket had to be replaced when i pulled the timing cover off so again "while I was there..." Pacesetter longtubes going back on which are better than the manifolds, and getting rid of the restrictive factory Y-pipe. Your budget is always a driving factor but "while your in there..."
 

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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by avpaulb2
I'm going forward with the plenum because I've notice some oil residue inside the TB.
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Another good question would be... how can I tell if my TB has an EGR sensor? I don't think mine does... just wondering because I have access to a couple of scrap-yard TB's. One has EGR, one does not.
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Um... I dont think any of the TB's on these trucks have an "egr sensor".... for that matter, I've never heard of an egr sensor on any vehicle.... I might be wrong though

Ahhh, I see what happened: you are confusing the terms "throttle body" (TB) and "intake manifold"

Just for future reference, there is no such thing as an "egr sensor" (not to my knowledge, anyway) rather; EGR is an engine system that died with the implementation of OBD2 compliance mandate (or shortly thereafter)

EGR = exhaust gas recirculation... basically, exhaust was recirculated through the intake to reduce any unburned hydrocarbons. Its performance (and ability to set a CEL) was measured by o2/vacuum fluctuations and MAP/IAT input (that's how I understand it).

A throttle body has nothing to do with EGR, but the intake manifold does.

Short answer: 97 was a transitional year when some manifolds were produced with EGR, some without. here are some links to pics of Intake mani's with/without EGR ports:

With: (notice the doolamahicky on the top right hand corner of the manifold)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...Q5fAccessories

Without: (has the hole, but nothing in it... best pic I could find):http://www.hughesengines.com/Tools/P...=HUG%205514-RA

So now ya know
 

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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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Think 96 was the year for that.... may have carried over to 97.... My 96 had a block off plate where the egr valve would go...... I have never gotten an egr code either.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Think 96 was the year for that.... may have carried over to 97.... My 96 had a block off plate where the egr valve would go...... I have never gotten an egr code either.
yup, my 1996 did not have EGR.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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Yeah I figured that one out already too. The manifolds at the salvage yard all have mounting for the EGR system "doomahicky", or "thingamabobber". I should be able to just plug it up.

I've never quite figured out why I always reverse TB and intake manifold... I know what they are!
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Think 96 was the year for that.... may have carried over to 97.... My 96 had a block off plate where the egr valve would go...... I have never gotten an egr code either.
That was my first thought on the matter as well, but all of the sources I could find state that it carried over as far as early 98, hence the EGR/non-EGR identification guide.

I've never seen one of these trucks set an EGR code, but I know it's possible for it to happen on EGR equipped cars (through experience with other, older vehicles). The performance evaluation part was explained to me by someone with a wealth of knowledge on subjects such as these (my uncle)... he could have been wrong though.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by avpaulb2
I've never quite figured out why I always reverse TB and intake manifold... I know what they are!
LOL... I wasn't meaning to patronize, just to inform.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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@Mad... No worries! I seriously get them backwards all the time. No idea why.

I'm no mechanic, believe me. But I like learning... which is why I bought the truck.

I appreciate all the help and advice! I'm hoping it keeps me from blowing my sh*% up! So far, so good!
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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I have found that C-4 works best, if that isn't available, dynamite is pretty good too. In a pinch ammonium nitrate, and diesel fuel will do the job.....

Oh, wait.... nevermind.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Scientist
That was my first thought on the matter as well, but all of the sources I could find state that it carried over as far as early 98, hence the EGR/non-EGR identification guide.

I've never seen one of these trucks set an EGR code, but I know it's possible for it to happen on EGR equipped cars (through experience with other, older vehicles). The performance evaluation part was explained to me by someone with a wealth of knowledge on subjects such as these (my uncle)... he could have been wrong though.
I still have a egr valve in my truck and it sets a code once a month.
 
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