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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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If you are going to pan the hood, why not just go the extra and create a whole Ram Air system lol?
What is it that you think he already has?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Only because the Edelbrock pro Flo filter gave me the best bump in HP and MPG. But I don't trust that foam filter to keep dirt out.
Really?

My testing on my dirtbikes has indicated a well oiled foam filter keeps out a metric****ton more dirt than a K&N. Not a small amount. The K&N's did seem to offer slightly better performance however. You have to use some good foam filter oilthough. I really like the Bel-Ray stuff for that but it's a pain to clean off your hands.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Really?

My testing on my dirtbikes has indicated a well oiled foam filter keeps out a metric****ton more dirt than a K&N. Not a small amount. The K&N's did seem to offer slightly better performance however. You have to use some good foam filter oilthough. I really like the Bel-Ray stuff for that but it's a pain to clean off your hands.
The trouble is, on the style of air 'cleaner'...... he is talking about, the foam is only a 1/4 inch thick, or so..... you can SEE thru it... They are great for street/PAVED track heavy breathers, but, for anything that operates in a dusty environment, very bad idea.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Ah yeah. The bike foam filters are probably at least an inch thick and have a fine cell foam covered by a course cell foam usually.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by S S0DEN
If you are going to pan the hood, why not just go the extra and create a whole Ram Air system lol?
What....?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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Adobe, I can't see how you've got it attached on my dinky cell phone screen, buy have you ever had an issue with the foam blowing out of shape under the hood?

Been thinking of cutting on my hood and adding a scoop for ****s and giggles. I love the look of the shaker hoods, but $1000 for a hood and shaker hat is too rich for my blood.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
The trouble is, on the style of air 'cleaner'...... he is talking about, the foam is only a 1/4 inch thick, or so..... you can SEE thru it... They are great for street/PAVED track heavy breathers, but, for anything that operates in a dusty environment, very bad idea.
I agree, you might as well run chicken wire across the TB for as well as those things filter.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aim4squirrels
Adobe, I can't see how you've got it attached on my dinky cell phone screen, buy have you ever had an issue with the foam blowing out of shape under the hood?

Been thinking of cutting on my hood and adding a scoop for ****s and giggles. I love the look of the shaker hoods, but $1000 for a hood and shaker hat is too rich for my blood.
Nope...Holds up to 110 mph no problem, it's pretty stiff. It's glued onto the aluminum plate with RTV.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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YOu are not supposed to oil foam rubber. It will eat away the foam and it will break apart and get into your engine. The edelbrock pro flow instructions specifically say not to oil the foam rubber.

It is FLIMSY foam. Like the foam in your seatcushion, but about 1/4 inch thick. You can punch a finger through it with minimal pressure.
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Really?

My testing on my dirtbikes has indicated a well oiled foam filter keeps out a metric****ton more dirt than a K&N. Not a small amount. The K&N's did seem to offer slightly better performance however. You have to use some good foam filter oilthough. I really like the Bel-Ray stuff for that but it's a pain to clean off your hands.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 12:37 AM
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OOPS you beat me to it. However, you could probably get away with it if you change your oil every 2 months.

Also, the filters are cheap, and cheaply made. THe foam is not an exact fit and you can see parts of the corner that would "leak" dirty air in there. I RTVd the leaks from the outside and was still worried they would come off and go through the intake.

I don't know why K&N or Spectre doesn't make a filter in that shape and STYLE!!! i would get one with an oiled cloth filter!!

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The trouble is, on the style of air 'cleaner'...... he is talking about, the foam is only a 1/4 inch thick, or so..... you can SEE thru it... They are great for street/PAVED track heavy breathers, but, for anything that operates in a dusty environment, very bad idea.
 
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