2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

Freeze plug...crapped itself

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 03-05-2012, 11:20 PM
Wombat Ranger's Avatar
Wombat Ranger
Wombat Ranger is offline
Grand Champion
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wild West
Posts: 5,672
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Congratulations. Your truck now has "CHINA" stamped into the side on the motor
 
  #22  
Old 03-05-2012, 11:23 PM
Crackshot's Avatar
Crackshot
Crackshot is offline
Professional
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 170
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Good work and great writeup. Freeze plugs suck replacing but at least you could get to the rascal!
 
  #23  
Old 03-06-2012, 12:12 AM
johnnyjaws98's Avatar
johnnyjaws98
johnnyjaws98 is offline
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newburgh NY
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by safrantz
Cold mornings? In Alabama? 3 hours from the gulf?
sorry didnt know your down there
 
  #24  
Old 03-06-2012, 01:15 AM
gdstock's Avatar
gdstock
gdstock is offline
Legend
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 8,259
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Good job and good write up. Booboo on head will heal - battle scar!

Makes me think I should probably order a set of brass plugs to keep on hand for that day mine decides it want to take a dive! That way I can order the brass and not have to wait.
 
  #25  
Old 03-06-2012, 01:39 AM
95RAM360's Avatar
95RAM360
95RAM360 is offline
Grand Champion
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: MAINE
Posts: 5,971
Likes: 0
Received 45 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2x1972
Congratulations. Your truck now has "CHINA" stamped into the side on the motor
hahahahahaha



nice write up, should be put in the diy
 
  #26  
Old 03-06-2012, 10:06 AM
zman17's Avatar
zman17
zman17 is offline
Retired Moderator - RIP
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NH
Posts: 18,729
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Nice DIY. I will add one bit of info. Remove the negative battery cable before taking the starter off.
 
  #27  
Old 03-06-2012, 10:52 AM
safrantz's Avatar
safrantz
safrantz is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Alabama / Georgia
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by zman17
Nice DIY. I will add one bit of info. Remove the negative battery cable before taking the starter off.
I totally did that too... damn my forgetfulness! I'll edit it at the beginning...
 
  #28  
Old 03-06-2012, 11:31 PM
dhvaughan's Avatar
dhvaughan
dhvaughan is offline
Hall Of Fame
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gainesville, Ga.
Posts: 12,204
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gdstock
Makes me think I should probably order a set of brass plugs to keep on hand for that day mine decides it want to take a dive! That way I can order the brass and not have to wait.
order them from o'reillys. best price by a long way. the kit includes only the block plugs, so if you want to have the head plugs too, get 4 more 1-1/4. (but, you probably can't replace the rears w/o removing heads or engine. no room) part numbers are hard to figure out. the -1 at the end indicates a single plug. otherwise its a box of 10 (that's why they're sometimes so damned expensive). there's also SC for shallow cup vs deep cup. dorman is best source for singles or boxes of 10.

steel $7.49 Part # 381-4014

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...reeze+plug+kit

brass $12.99 Part # 381-8010

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...reeze+plug+kit


block is 1-5/8.
head is 1-1/4.
one on the back of the block is 1-1/4
the other is 1-5/8


Name:  rear_freeze_plugs.jpg
Views: 8361
Size:  93.8 KB

Name:  026.jpg
Views: 10157
Size:  94.9 KB
 
  #29  
Old 07-20-2012, 05:24 PM
safrantz's Avatar
safrantz
safrantz is offline
Professional
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Alabama / Georgia
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HeyYou
I couldn't get brass, and I needed one in a hurry, so I just put a steel one back in.... If you can get brass, go with those. They are 1 5/8ths. I would be really surprised if the parts store didn't have 'em, they should only be a couple bucks.

They are dead easy to change. For the rear one there, disconnect the battery, drop the starter motor, and just set it on the control arm. (I didn't disconnect the wires either.) Use a screwdriver, or similar prying device to lever it out. They come out fairly easy. Not like you care if you destroy it taking it out... Once you have it out, hit the hole with some sand paper. (be aware, coolant WILL come out when you remove it.... no matter how much you think you drained out.) Put a thin bead of RTV around the new one, and use a socket that just fits into it to drive it in. Make sure you drive it in STRAIGHT. The edge of the plug should be just below the edge of the hole it fits in. Once it is in, let the RTV cure for at least an hour before refilling the cooling system.

Since that one looks so bad, and you are going to be right there.... I would change the one behind the engine mount as well. Have to pull the mount. I used a jack, and a short length of 2x4 to support the motor.


HeyYou son a biscuit eater...(j/k, much love.) SO, I should have listened to you -although when reading this over again I don't recall seeing it, but either way... there is a HORRENDOUS leak behind my driver side engine mount... and I pray it is the freeze plug... I was driving home from work and being as I have the next two days off, I floored it out of the parking lot in my 5 speed and what happened? My engine temp sky rocketed to 260+.... I immediately pulled over, got out, and basically watch my truck take the longest **** ever.

I limped it home after I put about 2.5 gallons of water in the system and that brought it back to about 195... it held for whatever reason on the way home... I suppose crap in the system blocked up the hole....

Now that it is cool, I've been outside fidgeting with the damn thing and cannot seem to get enough lift (2.25 ton jack, 15" or so lift(I think)) on the motor to release the tension on the motor mount. I've done as others have suggested and that I've read is supported the engine by the oil pan with a length of wood between the jack and pan... It seems to just lift my truck up as if I'm changing a tire. Maybe I'm not putting enough lift behind it to raise the motor from the mounts? I didn't want to push my luck too far, as IMHO, supporting the engine by the oil pan is a little iffy.

I removed my starter, I see the freeze plug that I replaced from this original post is in great condition and not a single leak around it. I was only able to remove one bolt from the motor mount which is on the engine side that seems to be directly under the freeze plug as from that area its still leaking all the water out that I put in it...

So my question is, is there a better way? Engine hoist? Anyone have a YouTube link? I'm searching right now, but wanted to get this post out there... as I only have today and tomorrow to get the problem fixed. I refuse to take it to a shop... even though I now work for a parts store and have several commercial accounts I can call on... Now if they let me use their lifts and such for free... that's a different story...

Thanks guys!

TLDR; Freeze plug leak behind driver's side engine mount, how do I get to it to replace it?
 
  #30  
Old 07-20-2012, 07:51 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 81,545
Likes: 0
Received 3,275 Likes on 3,022 Posts
Default

I used a six inch piece of scrap 2x4 and stood it up on the jack, and jacked against the oil pan rail. (carefully......) You WILL lift the truck on the suspension some, as you are relieving some weight off the suspension. Just pay attention to what is going on, so you don't drop anything.....

I think on the frame side of the mount, it's actually a slot, not a hole, that the engine mount bolt goes thru... so, I don't think you have to pull the bolt, just loosen it up some. (and that way, if it drops, the bolt will catch in the mount as well.) having it nice an loose while you are jacking... you will be able to tell when you have the weight off.

I think there are only three bolts for the motor mount holding it to the engine itself.... once it's out of the way, its really easy. I used a large socket, and a six inch extension to drive the new one in. You can actually get a straight shot at it.

Told ya ya should have done it when you were there.
 


Quick Reply: Freeze plug...crapped itself



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:07 AM.