what's your average mpg?
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My old 454 on propane ez basic set up
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REMEMBER, if you never learned in engineering, many times a engine has to be made specifically to run on hydrogen as when hydrogen and oxygen combust they create what? WATER VAPOUR! And our engines are NOT designed to be able to handle it... Just look at what happens when a cylinder cavitates or a head has a extremely severe cracks or the head gasket leaks coolant into the engine. It pits the metal. Pure and simple.
Let's get an answer to this question as the response at the top I've quoted implies you've done some learning.
I'm not an engine guy...but I'm having a hard time seeing the presence of cavitation in a cylinder.
Best example of cavitation is a propeller in water whereby the microsized air bubbles (high density and rate) explode on the surface of the blade, which then leads to "spalling" of material. In an engine....it's possible to get air consistently to the cylinder to do this......?
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I'm not an engine guy...but I'm having a hard time seeing the presence of cavitation in a cylinder.
Best example of cavitation is a propeller in water whereby the microsized air bubbles (high density and rate) explode on the surface of the blade, which then leads to "spalling" of material. In an engine....it's possible to get air consistently to the cylinder to do this......?
Best example of cavitation is a propeller in water whereby the microsized air bubbles (high density and rate) explode on the surface of the blade, which then leads to "spalling" of material. In an engine....it's possible to get air consistently to the cylinder to do this......?
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UnReg to some extent I was speaking of what you mentioned above, however, I have been warned by machine shops about tractor engines with leaking head gaskets, cracked heads, etc. to watch out for pitting in the cylinder walls in the combustion chamber. Now I just threw it out there, whether it applies to Magnum engines or not, I do not know. Am I making sense here?
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The water4gas, HHO, etc... systems don't work. It requires more energy to crack water molecules that you get out of burning them, (and hence, recombining...)
There are hundreds of these types of systems out there on the market, NONE of them are worth a tinkers damn. Do you seriously think that if the auto manufactures had the potential to double the fuel economy of some of their gas hogs, they would JUMP on the technology? Especially in this day and age of federally mandated fuel efficiency numbers?
Nope. Doesn't work. Never will.
There are hundreds of these types of systems out there on the market, NONE of them are worth a tinkers damn. Do you seriously think that if the auto manufactures had the potential to double the fuel economy of some of their gas hogs, they would JUMP on the technology? Especially in this day and age of federally mandated fuel efficiency numbers?
Nope. Doesn't work. Never will.
The idea of using hydrogen to power the internal combustion engine seems to have been around since before cars were....so if the point here is can hydrogen be used to power the engine i think the following suggests the answer is most definitely YES...is it a viable option for our trucks i cant yet say...but it seems as though it might be worth some spare time.
Hydrogen internal combustion engine cars are different from hydrogen fuel cell cars. The hydrogen internal combustion car is a slightly modified version of the traditional gasoline internal combustion engine car. These hydrogen engines burn fuel in the same manner that gasoline engines do.
Francois Isaac de Rivaz designed in 1807 the first hydrogen-fueled internal combustion engine.[34]
Paul Dieges patented in 1970 a modification to internal combustion engines which allowed a gasoline-powered engine to run on hydrogen US 3844262.
Mazda has developed Wankel engines burning hydrogen. The advantage of using ICE (internal combustion engine) like Wankel and piston engines is the cost of retooling for production is much lower. Existing-technology ICE can still be applied for solving those problems where fuel cells are not a viable solution insofar, for example in cold-weather applications.
HICE forklift trucks have been demonstrated[35] based on converted diesel internal combustion engines with direct injection.[31]
In July 2010 Boeing unveiled its hydrogen powered Phantom Eye UAV, powered by two Ford internal combustion engines that have been converted to run on hydrogen.[29]
DEARBORN, Mich., March 2, 2005 – Ford Motor Company plans to introduce its first commercial hydrogen-powered V-10, E-450 shuttle bus to the airline ground support market at the 2005 Ground Support Equipment Expo, March 8-10 in Las Vegas, Nev.
Propelled by an internal combustion engine that is supercharged and inter-cooled for maximum efficiency, the 12-passenger E-450 shuttle bus is designed to run on hydrogen fuel instead of gasoline. The vehicle is equipped with a 26-gallon equivalent, 5,000 pounds-per-square-inch hydrogen fuel tank with an expected range of about 150 miles. With near-zero emissions, including carbon dioxide, the E-450 shuttle bus will meet the most stringent applicable emissions standards.
The Ford display at the 2005 GSE Expo (booth #4096) will include the Ford V-10 hydrogen E-450 shuttle bus, Ford 6.8-liter hydrogen engine, Generac gen-set and TUG tow tractor, all operable on hydrogen. Representatives from Stuart Energy, an Ontario-based hydrogen station manufacturer, will also be at Ford's booth to provide information on the hydrogen filling station equipment needed to support these vehicles. It is the foundation of a new hydrogen infrastructure that uses only water and electricity to produce clean, pure hydrogen.
The Hydrogen 7 Saloon not only produces no CO2 or hydrocarbons, it actually cleans the surrounding air around it. In fact, the exhaust from the tailpipe is cleaner than the atmosphere. Additionally, Non-Methane Organic Gases (NMOGs) and Carbon Monoxides (COs) in emission levels are also less than those in the ambient atmosphere. In a report from Science Daily on March 31, 2008, the US Department of Energy (DOE) stated that the engine emitted only a small fraction of the Super-Ultra Low-Emission Vehicle level (SULEV) for automobiles. In exacting tests, it was found to have “near-zero” emissions.
Oh and here is one i thought you'd like Merc..being our resident boat man i saw this and thought of you. pretty cool eh!
MIG 675 Draws Its Power From The Water
If money is no object to you, but environmental concerns are, then LUXURY’s MIG 675 might be your kind of boat. The 22 x 8-foot cruiser seats three, has a top speed of 70 mph, and produces emissions consisting of nothing but water vapor - via its hydrogen-powered engine. It’s where that hydrogen reportedly comes from, however, that may really raise a few eyebrows.
Instead of carrying pressurized hydrogen tanks, the MIG 675 reportedly produces its own fuel, using an onboard generator that harvests hydrogen from the surrounding seawater. This powers its 500 HP supercharged engine, providing a cruising speed of 45 mph and the previously-mentioned 70 mph top end.
The hydrogen generator also powers all the onboard electrical devices, which include an electric anchor roller, a 10-inch touchscreen controller, GPS, depth finder, rear-view camera, an Alpine audio system, a bar fridge with an electric retractable table, and an LED navigation lighting system.
Ok i think im done lol.