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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:08 AM
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Sounds good hope it stays that way!.

Theres not been many threads I've cared to follow to this extent but its drawn me in lol

I have a Bluetooth OBD2 scanner I run with my mini laptop that works great for monitoring the trucks running conditions while you drive. Monitors the O2 sensor voltages as you drive on the fly instantly, love it a lot!.
yeah me too. i'd like to enjoy my drives w/out wondering when im gonna stall backing out spots/driveways or when the next rough idle is gonna happen and maybe cause more problems.. gonna go put another 100 miles on it today and see how she does.

and i appreciate you sticking around, really do. along w/the others that have t hrown in thoughts/comments/opinions. it is all appreciated. Great forum and great ppl on it.

ill have to look into one of those. found a programmer on CL for pretty cheap so i think if he still has it next week i am just gonna snag that. who knows.

thanks again everyone. i will update the thread in about a week.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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well, first start of the day, jumped in and fired her up. soon as idle settled i threw it in reverse and did not stall. went in the house for about 5-10mins and came out, looked and she was up to temp. threw it in reverse and stalled.

next step is throw in this crank sensor i went and bought. if it happens after that, im selling the truck. i love it, but did not buy it to keep playing around w/it wasting $ along the way.

ehh, if it wasnt bad luck, i'd have none at all.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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i was trying to get at the crank sensor and noticed a few things so i took some pics, phone screen isnt large enough so i wanted to post them so i can check them out on the laptop.

i think i might have found a bad/burned ground. plus i noticed that the groment for the crank sensor looked off, might have been changed before, idk. just need to check on a bigger screen. comments welcome if anyone has any.

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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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I don't believe that to be the problem...its just a frame ground. Did you by chance change that plenum gasket yet and get check the quality vacuum hose that goes to the map sensor? $21 for the gasket plus $6 for the bypass hose, I'd even come down to Point to help ya out with it.

The problem is going to be those things or the TC lockup solenoid.
 

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:08 AM
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I don't believe that to be the problem...its just a frame ground. Did you by chance change that plenum gasket yet and get check the quality vacuum hose that goes to the map sensor? $21 for the gasket plus $6 for the bypass hose, I'd even come down to Point to help ya out with it.

The problem is going to be those things or the TC lockup solenoid.
yeah after posting and viewing the larger pics i tossed that idea out the window.

i gave up on the crank sensor today, was just too cold plus i was getting pissed. may try again 2morrow but the weather is not supposed to be much better and my garage stays just as cold as it is outside.

no i havent got around to doing the plenum yet. slacking, i just hate doing intake gaskets. did my fair share on my explorers and just not fond of this engine yet, so i think that is one reason on the slacking.

my map sensor hose seems to be in good condition.

while trying to get at my crank sensor, i needed things out of my way, so i went to pull apart one of the vac tee's (pass side, the one the C.Control runs off of) so my sleeve didnt catch on it anymore, when i did i heard air escaping out of it, so i plugged it back up after a few seconds. when i gave up, i put everything back together and while moving the truck out the garage i now am hearing some type of vac leak. could it be due to me unplugging that Tee? i did replace it after a few seconds, no hissing so i know it sealed up when put back togther..

if it aint one thing, its another.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:52 AM
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yeah after posting and viewing the larger pics i tossed that idea out the window.

i gave up on the crank sensor today, was just too cold plus i was getting pissed. may try again 2morrow but the weather is not supposed to be much better and my garage stays just as cold as it is outside.

no i havent got around to doing the plenum yet. slacking, i just hate doing intake gaskets. did my fair share on my explorers and just not fond of this engine yet, so i think that is one reason on the slacking.

my map sensor hose seems to be in good condition.

while trying to get at my crank sensor, i needed things out of my way, so i went to pull apart one of the vac tee's (pass side, the one the C.Control runs off of) so my sleeve didnt catch on it anymore, when i did i heard air escaping out of it, so i plugged it back up after a few seconds. when i gave up, i put everything back together and while moving the truck out the garage i now am hearing some type of vac leak. could it be due to me unplugging that Tee? i did replace it after a few seconds, no hissing so i know it sealed up when put back togther..

if it aint one thing, its another.
When I do the crank sensor I don't move anything out of the way, I do it blind, it takes a little time to do, but still much easier than torquing down a distributor bolt on these engines and much easier than taking other crap off.

If you didn't put the air cleaner back on you'll hear a hissing noise coming from the throttle body.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the issue and it seems to be transmission related, I guess there was a service bulliten on the transmission pumps but they also said the transmission may need to be flushed. Heres something you should try for me...before going anywhere in your truck when you first start it up, put it in Neutral for like 20 seconds to give the transmission pump a head start on getting fluid flowing...who knows maybe you need a new filter in your transmission. Your truck will still benefit from a new plenum gasket change regardless, but who knows maybe the transmission filter needs to be changed. See if putting the truck in neutral on first start up of the day before going into drive or reverse helps it not stall, cuz from the sounds of it, your motor is fine other than I would do the plenum gasket change just to be sure its at its best.

The intake/plenum gasket is actually very easy itself when taking the proper steps, this engine is very straight forward. The hardest part of the job is cleaning the surfaces of the intake and plenum, I use a wire wheel or drill with a wire attachment to clean the steel plenum plate. I know a lot of guys will want to sell you on the $50 aluminum plenum plate but with a clean surface & copper permatex plus the supplied plenum gasket in the $20 Felpro intake kit it will do the job without blowing again. The permatex also helps the gaskets stay in place while you're putting the intake on making life a lot easier.

The key is to not take off more than you have to, to get the job done. I could write you a step by step or for a couple bucks in gas and a beer help you do it in person. I'm actually doing one this next week and I'm excited to do it lol.
 

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:23 AM
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When I do the crank sensor I don't move anything out of the way, I do it blind, it takes a little time to do, but still much easier than torquing down a distributor bolt on these engines and much easier than taking other crap off.

If you didn't put the air cleaner back on you'll hear a hissing noise coming from the throttle body.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the issue and it seems to be transmission related, I guess there was a service bulliten on the transmission pumps but they also said the transmission may need to be flushed. Heres something you should try for me...before going anywhere in your truck when you first start it up, put it in Neutral for like 20 seconds to give the transmission pump a head start on getting fluid flowing...who knows maybe you need a new filter in your transmission. Your truck will still benefit from a new plenum gasket change regardless, but who knows maybe the transmission filter needs to be changed. See if putting the truck in neutral on first start up of the day before going into drive or reverse helps it not stall, cuz from the sounds of it, your motor is fine other than I would do the plenum gasket change just to be sure its at its best.

The intake/plenum gasket is actually very easy itself when taking the proper steps, this engine is very straight forward. The hardest part of the job is cleaning the surfaces of the intake and plenum, I use a wire wheel or drill with a wire attachment to clean the steel plenum plate. I know a lot of guys will want to sell you on the $50 aluminum plenum plate but with a clean surface & copper permatex plus the supplied plenum gasket in the $20 Felpro intake kit it will do the job without blowing again. The permatex also helps the gaskets stay in place while you're putting the intake on making life a lot easier.

The key is to not take off more than you have to, to get the job done. I could write you a step by step or for a couple bucks in gas and a beer help you do it in person. I'm actually doing one this next week and I'm excited to do it lol.
i did not remove the air box from the TB when trying to get at the crank sensor. the hissing came after disconnecting the vac tee (which when i heard it i reconnected and it stopped). i have not drove the truck since except to pull out the garage as i have my explorer for when it snows and stuff so i dont salt up my ram.

ill try that for you, but.... i can hop right in the truck on a fresh start (before temp gauge gets moving) hit reverse and pull out, then drive and get my day going w/no problems. it is only after i let it warm up for 10 mins on a fresh start up that i get the stalling only in reverse. i must have read some of the same threads because i tried sitting in neutral for awhile and it did not change the stalling when you hit "R". i will try it again tho next time i pull the truck out. and my trans fluid actually looks great for 134k. doesnt smell burnt or anything, color is good and up to level.

as far as the plenum, the biggest thing i am worried about is snapping bolts off, to be 100% honest. as i think you were the one that pointed out my bolts didnt look that great, which they dont. as far as the actual task of removing/replacing the plenum im sure i would have no problems. ive read the plenum thread a few times and other threads as well and it is pretty straight forward, just slacking i guess.

i honestly dont think the plenum and stalling in reverse once warmed up are tied together, but it wouldnt be the first time i was wrong. idk, just to the point where im about to throw a for sale sign on it and stick it out in the front yard.

ill send ya a pm here in a few about location and such. thanks again man.
 
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got that crank sensor out after going at it for 2hrs today.. what a PITA, doing it for the first time and by myself didnt help but o well its out.

got a few questions. the one i pulled out has 2 little holes on the face of it, the new one does not. is that gona be a problem?

and i see what looks like a groove maybe. im not sure if it hit the crankshaft or not. it kind of looks like it to me.

i'll add a few pic's. my main question is, is it gonna cause any problems w/the new one not having those 2 holes?

if the "groove" on the face is from hitting the crankshaft, i believe the reason is, they didnt have the rubber seated right and possibly over tightened. idk.

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Holes are a non-issue. It's just a hall effect switch. I can't really see the grove in the pics...
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Holes are a non-issue. It's just a hall effect switch. I can't really see the grove in the pics...
awesome thanks for the fast reply.

the "groove" i was talking about is in between the 2 rusty looking lines on the face in the last pic. it is hard to tell in the pic i guess. you can tell that the plastic on the face between the 2 lines have been hit by something.

i'll go ahead and throw this new sensor in and call it a day.

thanks again.
 
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