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Old 09-06-2013 | 12:46 AM
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some of ya may know what im talkin bout in past threads. but im gettin a missfire type POP normally only a single pop when under load at low rpms. it never threw a code for a misfire. well i got a check engine light today and got it read, it was for the egr. the light never tripped until i put in my new dizzy. but now it does for some odd reason. i deleted the egr a while back when i put on my headers and the FI airgap. the guy at the shop i stopped at, i told the problem i have been chasing to him, and he told me that deleting the egr can caused a misfire type symtom,basically pinging, and normally it would be doing it around the rpms that i described to him. im not gonna change everything back on a hunch...since it is basically the last thing i have not done or checked. but can i hook the pcm up to a laptop and change the file, and turn off the egr option in the pcm? its worth a shot...

like i have said before it doesnt do it ALL the time, mostly under load at low rpms 1400-2000 range when going up a hill in overdrive or something to the sort, sometimes even on level surface if you put ur foot hard into it but from a dead stop...other than the single pop or 2, once its past those rpms, its a BEAST like its supposed to be.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 12:49 AM
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I honestly find it rather hard to believe that deleting EGR, something that PUTS carbon INTO your intake would cause a ping. And I don't know of anyway to crack into a Dodge pcm minus buying a whole different performance PCM.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 12:58 AM
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The EGR system is used to lower combustion chamber temps. Get rid of the EGR and temps rise. Rising temps mean it's more prone to ping.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 01:07 AM
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Did you ever get the fuel sync set with a drb meter or just the 30-30-30 way. If not take it to a shop and have it set right, chances are your problems will go away.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 01:21 AM
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i did the 30-30-30. seems to be better, but i dunno if its right or not, since i cant hook it uip to a computer. but it does seems better... the pop is less aggressive lets say. if i want a shop to look at it with the laptop and set it dead on, then ima have to get a little cash, right now i have higher priorities, but i did ask a shop and he said 80 bucks he would do it. but ima call and ask another one also. if they did set it back to 0 and i still have the prob then im a a total loss, besides this egr idea. yes your correct no egr means higher temps and more prone to ping....like i said it doesnt do it all the time just when it wants to...but when it does its in that rpm range usually.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 01:32 AM
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It needs to be set with a drb scanner, $80 is about right cheaper than a new motor that needs replacing because its running lean or fat. + 6 is the starting point with your mods.

CP from krc performance

Some of the symptoms that the sync signal is incorrect, you will get back firing through the intake manifold; vehicle will not idle or you will get major detonation at light loads causing the vehicle to lose severe power over 3000 rpm.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 02:30 AM
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yea i have read that page, and thats why i was leaning towards the sync. but after doin g the 30-30-30 thing it figure it would be close to 0. but your saying with my mods i actually need +6 like krc says they start out with...even if i dont have a custom cam?
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 02:59 AM
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Thats where I would start and go from there. Get your $80 worth of there time take it for a trip after each setting until it spot on.
 
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Old 09-06-2013 | 02:50 PM
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and we are saying just +6 on the fuel sync? or on both ignition and fuel sync?
 
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Old 09-07-2013 | 11:28 AM
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Ignition timing isn't adjustable. Turning the distributor ONLY changes fuel sync. Does not change ignition at all.
 


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