2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

leaf springs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 06:32 PM
  #1  
markdawson38's Avatar
markdawson38
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default leaf springs

I have a 99 1500 4wd ext short bed. If I put springs rated for a 2500 will it be a stiffer, rougher ride? Will it carry a load better and not sag as much as with the springs rated of a 1500? Will it raise the rear end?
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 06:39 PM
  #2  
zman17's Avatar
zman17
Retired Moderator - RIP
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 18,729
Likes: 17
From: NH
Default

Rear springs off a 2500 will not fit on a 1500 without welding modifications. Look online and get an add a leaf for a 1500 or try these ,a lot of folks like them. http://timbren.com/
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 09:14 PM
  #3  
Ham Bone's Avatar
Ham Bone
Champion
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,072
Likes: 7
From: Blacksburg, VA
Default

You actually don't need to weld. But you do have to cut the rivets off of the hangar and put a 2500 3in hangar on it with grade 8 bolts
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 09:26 PM
  #4  
dhvaughan's Avatar
dhvaughan
Hall Of Fame
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,204
Likes: 10
From: Gainesville, Ga.
Default

the perches on the axle tubes are only 2-1/2 wide. i think that was what HY was talking about welding.

unless you were getting junkyard 2500 springs for little to nothing, and you were looking at buying new springs - new springs for the 1500 can be had in 3+1, 4+1, and 5+1 configurations for about the same price. the 5+1 will be pretty much the same as the 2500 and will shake the eyeballs right out of your head.

if you just want to occasionally tow a boat or haul a load of firewood, get the timbrens. they're great.
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 09:59 PM
  #5  
Ham Bone's Avatar
Ham Bone
Champion
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,072
Likes: 7
From: Blacksburg, VA
Default

Originally Posted by dhvaughan
the perches on the axle tubes are only 2-1/2 wide. i think that was what HY was talking about welding.

unless you were getting junkyard 2500 springs for little to nothing, and you were looking at buying new springs - new springs for the 1500 can be had in 3+1, 4+1, and 5+1 configurations for about the same price. the 5+1 will be pretty much the same as the 2500 and will shake the eyeballs right out of your head.

if you just want to occasionally tow a boat or haul a load of firewood, get the timbrens. they're great.
This is true. I just assumed you would upgrade to a 2500 axle.

I have the timbrens and can personally vouch for them. They are great
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:47 AM
  #6  
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
Administrator
Veteran: Air Force
Community Favorite
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 87,482
Likes: 4,223
From: Clayton MI
Default

Originally Posted by dhvaughan
the perches on the axle tubes are only 2-1/2 wide. i think that was what HY was talking about welding.

unless you were getting junkyard 2500 springs for little to nothing, and you were looking at buying new springs - new springs for the 1500 can be had in 3+1, 4+1, and 5+1 configurations for about the same price. the 5+1 will be pretty much the same as the 2500 and will shake the eyeballs right out of your head.

if you just want to occasionally tow a boat or haul a load of firewood, get the timbrens. they're great.
zman and I are interchangeable now?
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:41 PM
  #7  
markdawson38's Avatar
markdawson38
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Leaf springs

So checked timbren out sounds good but which would be better timbren or replacing the springs whats going to be a better ride?
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 10:31 PM
  #8  
dhvaughan's Avatar
dhvaughan
Hall Of Fame
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,204
Likes: 10
From: Gainesville, Ga.
Default

ride and load are two different things.

here's more info on timbren. https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...installed.html

2500 springs are 3 inches wide and require you to modify the shackles or spring perches or the entire axle housing. that's a good bit of work. load capacity will be very high. ride quality is low.

add-a-leaf or adding your own leaves requires you to remove the spring packs, add leaves, maybe get longer u-bolts and center bolts. reinstall. load capacity is increased, ride quality is decreased some, depending on how many leaves you add.

replacing your spring packs with new one's will eliminate any lop-sided lean that you might have. you can buy different spring configs. the heavier the spring, the stiffer the ride.

timbren installs with an air gap to provide normal stock ride when unloaded. when you load the truck down onto the rubber spring, then and only then is your ride quality affected. if you install the extra rubber spring or for whatever reason you're in contact with the timbren, then your ride quality drops. i tried it, but i thought it was a little stiff.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:20 PM
  #9  
markdawson38's Avatar
markdawson38
Thread Starter
|
Rookie
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Leaf springs

Truck doesn't lean at all with no weight in truck bed or pulling anything truck sit fine, with a load it sags bad was like looking to help the ride and sagging problem still don't know witch way to go someone tell me please.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2013 | 01:55 AM
  #10  
frankie_b_jr's Avatar
frankie_b_jr
Captain
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 586
Likes: 17
From: Nevada
Default

Sounds like the timbren system would be the way to go. 1500s don't like much weight behind them on stock springs. My answer for the sagging was to find some small airbags from a semi truck sleeper and build mounts for them. I only aired them up when I was towing something. Worked well until I started over heating the rear end.
Now my 1500 cab is on a 2500 frame and I'm loving it.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:12 PM.