Building the 360 help
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Building the 360 help
2001 dodge ram 1500 4x4 5.9 360 with 193000
dropped a new rear end posi with 4:10/s
brand new 46re rebuild with shift kit and upgraded torc converter nd clutches the whole 9 yards.
i want to build the motor to as much horse i can get it to within a reasonable price. i saw the 408 stroker kit what a friend told me to get but id rather take advice from u guys so help me out. about 2grand saved! still saving..(broke) it runs nice now tho. wannted to do a 12v cummins swap but thats way to much conversion and involvement.
what to get?
what brand or type of camshaft
lifters?
pistons? flat or curves?
heads?
i wanna use original block if thers no damage. ill replace alot when its pulled
i wanna BUILD it.. thanks
dropped a new rear end posi with 4:10/s
brand new 46re rebuild with shift kit and upgraded torc converter nd clutches the whole 9 yards.
i want to build the motor to as much horse i can get it to within a reasonable price. i saw the 408 stroker kit what a friend told me to get but id rather take advice from u guys so help me out. about 2grand saved! still saving..(broke) it runs nice now tho. wannted to do a 12v cummins swap but thats way to much conversion and involvement.
what to get?
what brand or type of camshaft
lifters?
pistons? flat or curves?
heads?
i wanna use original block if thers no damage. ill replace alot when its pulled
i wanna BUILD it.. thanks
#2
first thing you need to do is have budget in mind. Its a dodge so its going to be expensive to build. Also depends how far motor wise you want to go. my 426 build I priced was pushing 14k. You can do a 408 kit, stay away from eagle cranks in my opinion, do a comp cam. Hughes engines has some nice kits and they are very helpful.
#3
14K for a 426 build? Holy hell man. It should be half that.
OP- Best things you can do on a budget are Harland Sharp roller rockers S70037 I believe is the part #, shorty style truck headers, make sure you do the plenum fix, if your so inclined you can taper the bores of your throttle body which I think helped a LITTLE on mine...EQ heads with the big valves is another good one...all together with stock cam I'd expect a big bump in torque. Later on if you want to get into a cam change like I am... I just ordered the comp cams 20-744-9 (I think that's right.) and am still in the air whether I will swap valve springs and run harland sharp roller rockers. I am also going to do the "kegger mod" which is partially cutting down the intake runners and doing a simple gasket match if so desired. I plan to in addition, fill the dead space in the plenum somehow...
Budget of 2 grand I would definitely go for the EQ heads, fully prepared with valves and everything. Probably the single biggest gain on a 360, plus alot of people have issues with stock heads being cracked. This of course is minus a rebuild, you may find that everything is still in good shape, or that you only need rings and a clean up of the walls...
OP- Best things you can do on a budget are Harland Sharp roller rockers S70037 I believe is the part #, shorty style truck headers, make sure you do the plenum fix, if your so inclined you can taper the bores of your throttle body which I think helped a LITTLE on mine...EQ heads with the big valves is another good one...all together with stock cam I'd expect a big bump in torque. Later on if you want to get into a cam change like I am... I just ordered the comp cams 20-744-9 (I think that's right.) and am still in the air whether I will swap valve springs and run harland sharp roller rockers. I am also going to do the "kegger mod" which is partially cutting down the intake runners and doing a simple gasket match if so desired. I plan to in addition, fill the dead space in the plenum somehow...
Budget of 2 grand I would definitely go for the EQ heads, fully prepared with valves and everything. Probably the single biggest gain on a 360, plus alot of people have issues with stock heads being cracked. This of course is minus a rebuild, you may find that everything is still in good shape, or that you only need rings and a clean up of the walls...
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Forged pistons will be approx $700+
Fully dressed and ported heads $2000+
H beam rods $400+
Forged crank approx $600+
Machine shop work approx $1000+
Balance assy $400+
New fuel delivery system (return style) $600+
odds and ends say $1500
You might look at getting a built long block might be the cheaper easier way to go, they are out there and they range from 300hp to over 600hp.
Have a look around this site it will give you some ideas and prices, there are dyno sheets there as well. http://www.performanceinjectionequipment.com/
The 440 kit starts at $3500 then add the "R "block $3000+ and it adds up fast 10k easy.
Last edited by merc225hp; 12-23-2013 at 12:43 PM.
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I do suggest you look at performance long blocks or so called crate motors, I have seen them start at $3000 not that bad. Just have to hunt on the web and see what's out there.
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exactly what im going to do i find that route easier because it still drives great i just want more performance lol