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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Strokers can last just as long as their stock stroke brethren, if taken care of. And you will only really beat on it for the first couple weeks. Then you get used to it. Keep in mind, there is no replacement for displacement. And the long stroke motor really lends itself to building LOTS of torque down low. No, it is NOT a high RPM motor. At all.

For the trans, have a look here as well. (look at Kit K3.) Bit more money, but, they also tell you EXACTLY what you get, instead of leaving you guessing.

Torque/horsepower are curves over RPM. Horsepower is a function of torque. (HP is just toque over time.) I think that example motor peaked at over 4K RPM for torque, which really isn't ideal for a truck motor....

Keep in mind, strokers aren't cheap.
True, my father always says "no replacement for displacement" coming from a true mopar himself with a '66 satellite.

That makes sense, more torque with a longer stroke, giving it almost more inertia. Technically there isn't such thing as a horsepower.

I called up that level ten place and this is what they told me.
I'm going to call tomorrow to see if they warranty anything.

-Kickdown band (2nd gear)
-New clutches for overdrive
-New valve body, I forget what he said about it
-Seals
-Pressure Regulator spring
-Rear servo

I just also know that it comes with alot of clutches. Like I said, I want to call again tomorrow.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 10:27 PM
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HeyYou hit on it.
No you do not have to have your foot in the floor all the time with a stroker engine.
Remember a engine is just a large air pump. By increasing the stroke all you're doing is making the crank longer in the rod area. I am using the same length rods that you are. Because of the longer stroke the piston is also different than a stock one. The oil control rings are closer to the pivot pin and sometimes into that area. Also the top compression ring is closer to the top of the piston.
Now as HeyYou said a stroker engine is a torque MONSTER!! It is that because you have lengthened the throw of the rod. Just the same as getting a longer stick to move a rock. Now does it make things wear faster? Not that I know of. My Jeep won't be my daily driver but I will drive it a lot once the engine is together. People have been building stroker engines for off-road vehicles for years. And because of the layout of the Magnum block it lends itself to being built into a stroker.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildman4x4nut
HeyYou hit on it.
No you do not have to have your foot in the floor all the time with a stroker engine.
Remember a engine is just a large air pump. By increasing the stroke all you're doing is making the crank longer in the rod area. I am using the same length rods that you are. Because of the longer stroke the piston is also different than a stock one. The oil control rings are closer to the pivot pin and sometimes into that area. Also the top compression ring is closer to the top of the piston.
Now as HeyYou said a stroker engine is a torque MONSTER!! It is that because you have lengthened the throw of the rod. Just the same as getting a longer stick to move a rock. Now does it make things wear faster? Not that I know of. My Jeep won't be my daily driver but I will drive it a lot once the engine is together. People have been building stroker engines for off-road vehicles for years. And because of the layout of the Magnum block it lends itself to being built into a stroker.
I just feel like as soon as people get the new found power, they want to take fulllll advantage of it.
Now I feel like, with using the same length pushrods the exh. and int. valves are opening and closing not the full length of time the piston goes from BDC to TDC and visa versa.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 02:48 AM
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Yes you are partly correct that whenever you have new found power you're going to be tempted to try it out. I am not 21 anymore and have a little better connection between my right foot and my brain. So yes when I am out wheeling I will use this new found power some of the time but I will not be standing on the GO pedal all the time. Plus our trails out here in the PNW are tight and narrow so there aren't a lot of places to just put the wood to the floor and rap that engine up to 8,000 RPM.

The valves aren't open the full time. The pushrods have nothing to do with this either. It is the cam that controls the duration each valve is open and closed. Go back to your cam web page and look at the spec's for open and closed. Also you will always get some overlap between when the exhaust valve is closing and the intake valve is opening. This is your duration and overlap.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildman4x4nut
Yes you are partly correct that whenever you have new found power you're going to be tempted to try it out. I am not 21 anymore and have a little better connection between my right foot and my brain. So yes when I am out wheeling I will use this new found power some of the time but I will not be standing on the GO pedal all the time. Plus our trails out here in the PNW are tight and narrow so there aren't a lot of places to just put the wood to the floor and rap that engine up to 8,000 RPM.

The valves aren't open the full time. The pushrods have nothing to do with this either. It is the cam that controls the duration each valve is open and closed. Go back to your cam web page and look at the spec's for open and closed. Also you will always get some overlap between when the exhaust valve is closing and the intake valve is opening. This is your duration and overlap.
Yeah true, I would love the new found power, I know I'm going to, but I want to try and not go WOT till 3,000 miles atleast.
True, I never really thought about it like that. I looked up the specs and are
Duration:
Intake :216
Exhaust 224

Valve timing at 0.006lift:
Exhaust Closes ATDC:18
Exhaust Opens BBDC:75
Intake Closes ABDC: 62
Intake Opens BTDC:23

I understand that higher the duration, the higher the RPM you make your power but never really thought about what the intake and closing numbers mean.
 

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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:44 AM
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dude.......

a couple 100 miles of normal driving and then youre good. drive it like you stole it.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:13 AM
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Yeah I thought the same thing about taking it easy but that didn't last long. If it's gona blow it's gona blow! Haha
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ham Bone
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a couple 100 miles of normal driving and then youre good. drive it like you stole it.
You think so? I was told a while back from an old timer that after the first oil change should be a good period of time to wait.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboundrmk
Yeah I thought the same thing about taking it easy but that didn't last long. If it's gona blow it's gona blow! Haha
That's what I figured, I know it won't be easy keeping my foot out of it. Yeahh true, I'd just be upset that the motor I just put together blew lol.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dean98ram1500
You think so? I was told a while back from an old timer that after the first oil change should be a good period of time to wait.
Most old timers suspicions like that have nothing to back them besides "a hunch". And we're working with modern engineering here. Not 1920 engines.

Not a flat tappet cam so no worries there.

There are two schools of thought. Taking it super easy. Or just using it like its supposed to be. I like the second.
 
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