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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 02:35 PM
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I have a ‘94 Ram 2500 with the 5.9 magnum. The engine is suddenly qutting. I’m always braking when it happens but most of the time when I brake, it still runs fine. It is dying suddenly as if I turned the key off - not spluttering or running rough. Then it won’t start again until several hour later. It will turn over and having deleted the muffler I can hear it firing a bit I think but it’s not near as loud as when it runs. Give a few hour and it will start and run just fine. The engine has been cold each time it’s done this. All the spark plugs, plug wires, distributer cap and coil rotor? were replaced last summer. About 2 weeks ago I had the master cylinder replaced. It’s been running fine until yesterday. I’ve gone over all the fuses and all the wiring except in the dash. There is no CEL on. Any ideas?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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The power brake booster could be shot. When you hit the brake, the booster sucks excessive vacuum for the engine to operate. You could try plugging the brake booster vacuum line and try that to be sure, but your brakes will not operate as before of course. What bugs me is that it should fire right back up unless you have your foot on the brake. If that is not the problem at least you have eliminated that possibility. Another thing that will kill an engine under operation is a bad crank or cam sensor, that should get a check engine light.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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I'd check the IAC, my 1500 was doing this before- especially when braking downhill. I cleaned the carb and replaced the IAC sensor. Problem solved.
 
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Originally Posted by Torxhead
The power brake booster could be shot. When you hit the brake, the booster sucks excessive vacuum for the engine to operate. You could try plugging the brake booster vacuum line and try that to be sure, but your brakes will not operate as before of course. What bugs me is that it should fire right back up unless you have your foot on the brake. If that is not the problem at least you have eliminated that possibility. Another thing that will kill an engine under operation is a bad crank or cam sensor, that should get a check engine light.

I don’t think it is the brake booster because the engine Is dying as if you turned it off with the key at the ignition. So I think it must be electrical. Also when the engine doesn’t shut off the brakes are working just fine breaking down hill, slowing down, hauling a load and it’s not dying every time you push the brakes.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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I'd check the IAC, my 1500 was doing this before- especially when braking downhill. I cleaned the carb and replaced the IAC sensor. Problem solved.

when it is running, the engine is idling fine at 500rpm. so I don’t think this is the issue.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:08 PM
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500 is a bit low. Fully warmed, should be around 600 or so.

Need to find out what's missing when it won't start. That will point you in the direction you need to start looking.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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Hmmm, I'd check it out just in case, mine was idling fine in park, but I cleaned out the IAC housing and replaced the IAC itself. Seemed to do the trick.
Have you tried testing the connection to the throttle position sensor (TPS)? As well as looking in the carb to see if anything is obstructing the plate?
 

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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:17 PM
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I’ve had for about a year now and it’s always idled around 500 but the oil pressure stays up. The fact it has 250,000 miles could be a factor. I believe ‘93 was the last year with a carb but I could be wrong. How do I test the TPS?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:27 PM
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LOL, I'm sorry- your right. Old habits don't die- I meant "throttle body".
Not 100% sure, I've never had to mess with mine, but i've heard some tales..
->unplug the tps harness
-> set your meter to 20 volts on the DC?
->turn ignition to on
-> attach red to battery, black to the prongs inside the tps harness
->They should read 12 volts, if not, you have a bad wire
I'm not positive about the voltage coming from the actual TPS itself.. Hmm
Have you looked inside the throttle body? WHats it look like?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2018 | 05:28 PM
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TPS testing:
http://www.enduringautomotive.com/tps/
 
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