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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 12:22 AM
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I have an MSD 6 ignition with an MSD coil in my truck. Fresh 5.2 with less than 1000 miles on it now, long tube headers, mild cam, nothing too crazy.
  • Engine runs good and sounds good, but it does smell like its running rich. I can smell gas at idle.
  • The truck feels really lazy like its way underpowered.
  • I have a Snap On scan tool and have the fuel sync set to +3 which seems to make it run the best with my setup.
Question - MSD 8680 timing control lets you adjust timing manually. Has anyone tried one in their truck? I'm curious how well it would work.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 08:13 AM
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If you think its running rich, changing the timing won't fix that.

How old are your O2 sensors?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 12:01 AM
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If you think its running rich, changing the timing won't fix that.

How old are your O2 sensors?
o2 sensors are about 2 yrs old. NGK part# 23139 front and NGK part#23140 rear (my truck came factory with only 2 sensors.) I already swapped them out once and still it smells rich when I drive or if I put it in park and walk around the truck.
I was 'thinking' the timing could possibly be out of whack, just grabbing at straws trying to figure this one out. I have swapped the ECM, also ran a continuity test on all the o2 sensor wires to confirm they aren't broken/shorted.
Only code I am getting is for the coil, but I have an MSD ignition/coil so I'm not surprised by that. (the truck ran rich before and after the MSD upgrade)
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff351
o2 sensors are about 2 yrs old. NGK part# 23139 front and NGK part#23140 rear (my truck came factory with only 2 sensors.) I already swapped them out once and still it smells rich when I drive or if I put it in park and walk around the truck.
I was 'thinking' the timing could possibly be out of whack, just grabbing at straws trying to figure this one out. I have swapped the ECM, also ran a continuity test on all the o2 sensor wires to confirm they aren't broken/shorted.
Only code I am getting is for the coil, but I have an MSD ignition/coil so I'm not surprised by that. (the truck ran rich before and after the MSD upgrade)
You can smell fuel correct?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 07:35 AM
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Is the pcm getting a correct reading on the temperature?
 
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