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Old 11-14-2019 | 08:03 PM
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Hey all. Wondering if anyone here has 4.10 gears on there halfton and also running 33" tires. And how do you like it? Is it worth the money?
 
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Old 11-14-2019 | 08:27 PM
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I think 4.10s, and 33's would be just about a perfect match. I have 4.56, and 33's, and it is just too much gear. (I want to bump to 35's, as tires are a LOT cheaper than gears...... ) Is it worth it? Depends on why you are changing gears. Is it a good idea if you want to run larger tires? Yep. Most definitely.
 
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Old 11-14-2019 | 08:54 PM
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I think 4.10s, and 33's would be just about a perfect match. I have 4.56, and 33's, and it is just too much gear. (I want to bump to 35's, as tires are a LOT cheaper than gears...... ) Is it worth it? Depends on why you are changing gears. Is it a good idea if you want to run larger tires? Yep. Most definitely.
Id like to stay larger tires yes. Truck is not a daily driver but i use it to go hunting. And also tow a older tandem camper i plan to take out west which has hilly areas. I wanna keep the transmission happy but most of all i want the extra power from 0-60 . Can be pretty scary getting up to speed when merging on highway with camper on those tires.
 
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In that case, I would suggest you go for it. You will be MUCH happier driving your truck. You are looking at 1500-2000 bucks for front and rear axles though. (that's to do both, parts and labor) Just depends on what labor rates are like in your area. If you have some skill, are comfortable with precision measuring equipment, (and can actually find/borrow/rent/buy some) doing it yourself is an option. If you haven't done it before, I would recommend getting help from someone that has, and if you can't, pay someone else to do it. Gears are picky, and it is way to easy to set them up wrong, and then trash them in short order.

Buy good quality gears, they tend to be easier to install so they are quiet.
 
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Old 11-14-2019 | 11:08 PM
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[QUOTE=HeyYou;3459919]In that case, I would suggest you go for it. You will be MUCH happier driving your truck. You are looking at 1500-2000 bucks for front and rear axles though. (that's to do both, parts and labor) Just depends on what labor rates are like in your area. If you have some skill, are comfortable with precision measuring equipment, (and can actually find/borrow/rent/buy some) doing it yourself is an option. If you haven't done it before, I would recommend getting help from someone that has, and if you can't, pay someone else to do it. Gears are picky, and it is way to easy to set them up wrong, and then trash them in short order.

Buy good quality gears, they tend to be easier to install so they are quiet.


Im gonna let pros handle this and get them installed with a warranty. The place im going to will be using dana gears. Yah its gonna cost max 2500 he said but probably will be less. As long as im going to notice a difference i want to do this upgrade soon

 
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Old 11-14-2019 | 11:12 PM
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In that case, I would suggest you go for it. You will be MUCH happier driving your truck. You are looking at 1500-2000 bucks for front and rear axles though. (that's to do both, parts and labor) Just depends on what labor rates are like in your area. If you have some skill, are comfortable with precision measuring equipment, (and can actually find/borrow/rent/buy some) doing it yourself is an option. If you haven't done it before, I would recommend getting help from someone that has, and if you can't, pay someone else to do it. Gears are picky, and it is way to easy to set them up wrong, and then trash them in short order.

Buy good quality gears, they tend to be easier to install so they are quiet.



What is the higher speeds like? Ill still have power if not more then what i did for passing on the highway?
 
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What is the higher speeds like? Ill still have power if not more then what i did for passing on the highway?
That is honestly a no question answer. Never had a high geared Magnum so I could be wrong here. You will use more gas in the higher speeds. Seeing how these trucks only have a 4spd you will actually only have 3 when towing. These engines start to "die" after 4K RPM you will have more power then stock but not much in my opinion. Now if you had a high revving motor (like a Hemi) or a more gear tranny that you would have much more power
 
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
That is honestly a no question answer. Never had a high geared Magnum so I could be wrong here. You will use more gas in the higher speeds. Seeing how these trucks only have a 4spd you will actually only have 3 when towing. These engines start to "die" after 4K RPM you will have more power then stock but not much in my opinion. Now if you had a high revving motor (like a Hemi) or a more gear tranny that you would have much more power



Soooooo? Go for the 4.10 or stay struggling with 3.55
 
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In that case, I would suggest you go for it. You will be MUCH happier driving your truck. You are looking at 1500-3000 bucks for front and rear axles though. (that's to do both, parts and labor) Just depends on what labor rates are like in your area.
Buy good quality gears, they tend to be easier to install so they are quiet.
Fixed it for you . I was quoted $3k over three years ago which is more than the truck is worth. Was also told there's no way the gears were still operating at their age. That was 60k ago!

I just don't see how gears are worth it anymore considering these trucks just aren't worth the steel they have. If the swap can be done yourself then go for it, though.
 
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Old 11-15-2019 | 09:56 AM
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You are actually going to have your RPM at various speeds much closer to stock with large tires, and deeper gears. For most situations, gas mileage won't change. It likely went down with the larger tires, and stock gears. You may recover that, you may not. A lot depends on where the majority of your driving happens. The idea behind swapping your gears out, is to keep the engine in it's designed power band, in most situations. Currently, with the bigger tires, and stock gears, that is only happening at higher speeds. So, if you do mostly freeway driving, your gas mileage probably improved a point or so. If you drive mostly around town, then your gas mileage likely took a dive.

A trans with more gears is a potential solution. Deeper first gear, taller O/D gear, and the 3.55's axle ratio may actually work in your favor. Trouble is, there just aren't many folks out there doing retrofits of new transmissions into older trucks. They are out there for the diesels, but, between the adapters, electronics, new driveshafts, etc, you are looking at near 5 grand to add two gears to your trans. And that doesn't include the cost of the transmission...... Axle gears are cheaper.

For towing, once again, with larger tires, and steeper gears, you are going to be moving things back close to what they were with stock gears/tires. You will have better power for getting the load moving, and the engine will be further up in the power band to keep the load moving. Will it limit your speed while towing? Yep. Quite likely. However, I do not see that as a drawback.

My truck, with 33's, and 4.56 gears, on the other hand, is simply too much gear. I am pushing over 3K RPM at 55mph. Of course, I am generally pulling something to the tune of 12,000 pounds as well...... so, going 'fast' really isn't a good idea in any event. I WOULD like to be able to go the speed limit, without having my engine screaming though......
 



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