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Old Dec 24, 2019 | 10:24 PM
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Please help me out! I’m not so familiar with my truck, 99 2nd gen 24v 3500 dually.

I had had my trailer hooked up to the truck with a car on top, when down my friends mountain of a driveway. I went to slow down and eventually the wheels locked up and the truck and trailer slid about 30 feet until my passenger front wheel smashed a sewer drain/curb and then my front end blasted a monster boulder the size of car and moved it a foot. That boulder kept me from going over a clif...
my friend had a backhoe and was able to pull the whole rig set up back up the driveway with a chain. It was crazy and believe it or not the front end doesn’t even look like it was touched. The front bumper brackets got a little bent but this is what I need help with!

truck still runs amazing. It drives. But the alignment is hella f**** up. If your driving and you let go of the wheel it pulls VERY aggressively to the right. Before the truck drove very straight. That same passenger side wheel is pushed back a bit maybe an inch towards the cab. Clearly something is bent. I assumed the control arm, but now I’m scared thinking frame damage or where the control arm mounts is also bent.

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Old Dec 24, 2019 | 11:38 PM
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Some pictures of the truck and suspension would help. Honestly your best bet is to take it to a frame and alignment shop and have them measure it to see what moved.
 
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Some pictures of the truck and suspension would help.
X2! Also you should have adjusted the trailer brakes BEFORE taking off to drive it!
 
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truck still runs amazing. It drives. But the alignment is hella f**** up. If your driving and you let go of the wheel it pulls VERY aggressively to the right. Before the truck drove very straight. That same passenger side wheel is pushed back a bit maybe an inch towards the cab. Clearly something is bent. I assumed the control arm, but now I’m scared thinking frame damage or where the control arm mounts is also bent.

Any opinions please? Thank you!
Just crawl under the truck and see what's bend, compare to the left side if you are not sure how parts should look. But I'm 95% sure that control arms took the hit. They are so flimsy stamped steel parts that they barely take the beating at light offroading, but then again, designed to bend on an accident like yours. This, however, applies only if you are driving a 4wd truck.
 

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While it could be frame damage, I'm thinking the steering components took most of the hit with maybe some spring tweaks in there too. You have a fairly heavy frame and with the wheel getting hammered, I think it acted as a shock absorber and took the impact as a sacrificial part. I'd check the wheel for roundness too. The tire and wheel may be damaged.
 
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X2! Also you should have adjusted the trailer brakes BEFORE taking off to drive it!
the trailer brakes were adjusted! Brakes had air in the system and the rear wheels didn’t lock up. What I should have done was thrown it in neutral, I had the force of my motor pushing the 4 rear wheels forward and my foot was stomped on the brake pedal
 
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I found the issue and now I need help with this, the truck is RWD. I don’t have the solid axle I have a front subframe and control arm set up. So the control arm took the main impact, the control has 3 mounting spots. Mounts to the knuckle on the one side and then on the other side it mounts to the front subframe and the other mounts to tabs/bull**** bracket that’s welded to the frame. That section of the frame/tabs ripped out of the frame. Not completely but this is why my wheel is pushed back. It’s bad but not ripped out. I did what I could today, unmounted the control arm. Tried to smash it back into place and jack it into place. It didn’t do much but helped. Welded it and put it back together. Alignment is still bad but doesn’t pull to the right ridiculously bad like it did before. Realistically it needs to be professionally fixed, cut out and replaced a welded. But I’ll get an alignment and deal with this for now. But this is what I need help with. I see these long arm kits but they’re all for a 4x4 with a solid axle. The kits have brackets for the control arms where you cut off the stock mounts and weld in new ones in a different spot. Is there any type of set up similar where I can relocate the RWD control arm so I can simply just buy the set up weld the mounts get an alignment and this frame damage becomes a simple hole/crack in my frame. Or even any type of aftermarket front lower control arm set up? Again 99 Dodge Ram 3500 REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Thank you!!!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Austin Pinelli
I found the issue and now I need help with this, the truck is RWD. I don’t have the solid axle I have a front subframe and control arm set up. So the control arm took the main impact, the control has 3 mounting spots. Mounts to the knuckle on the one side and then on the other side it mounts to the front subframe and the other mounts to tabs/bull**** bracket that’s welded to the frame. That section of the frame/tabs ripped out of the frame. Not completely but this is why my wheel is pushed back. It’s bad but not ripped out. I did what I could today, unmounted the control arm. Tried to smash it back into place and jack it into place. It didn’t do much but helped. Welded it and put it back together. Alignment is still bad but doesn’t pull to the right ridiculously bad like it did before. Realistically it needs to be professionally fixed, cut out and replaced a welded. But I’ll get an alignment and deal with this for now. But this is what I need help with. I see these long arm kits but they’re all for a 4x4 with a solid axle. The kits have brackets for the control arms where you cut off the stock mounts and weld in new ones in a different spot. Is there any type of set up similar where I can relocate the RWD control arm so I can simply just buy the set up weld the mounts get an alignment and this frame damage becomes a simple hole/crack in my frame. Or even any type of aftermarket front lower control arm set up? Again 99 Dodge Ram 3500 REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Thank you!!!
I am not aware of any kits of that nature. They may have been available at one time, but, 20 years later, no one has been making them for some time...... Take the truck to a frame shop. Have it professionally repaired. That's gonna be your best option.
 
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Originally Posted by Austin Pinelli
the trailer brakes were adjusted! Brakes had air in the system and the rear wheels didn’t lock up. What I should have done was thrown it in neutral, I had the force of my motor pushing the 4 rear wheels forward and my foot was stomped on the brake pedal

Pumping the brakes quickly would have helped by compressing the air in the lines. However, that's something you have to learn by experience and you were surprised by the slide. Like HeyYou said, have a frame shop repair it and go on. The critical thing is YOU are uninjured and no one else was either. When all is said and done, you truck is just metal, glass and rubber. It can be fixed and you have a tale to tell other down the road about maintenance.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 08:45 AM
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Is it air in the lines or was it the ABS kicking in?
 
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