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Old 02-20-2022 | 12:56 PM
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With the advent of the Internet, Google, Craigslist and Facebook, you can find most any parts for these elderly trucks. Just need some time to do the searches and please don't need to have the part "right now". I'm so glad my 25+ year old truck isn't a daily driver, but runs like one when I need it....
 

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Old 02-20-2022 | 04:55 PM
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Mine has and still is my DD. Never needed something I couldn't find. Between Oreillys, Napa, and Rockauto, I'm covered! Wouldn't drive anything else.
 
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Old 02-22-2022 | 07:19 PM
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I was just servicing our '02 CTD with the bastard D80/70 and one complaint of our volunteers was parking brake doesn't work.

I returned to my caveman checklist, and while there was some (enough, for now) friction material left on the shoes the adjuster was nearly maxed out. Was it solely worn shoes? Maybe. Have the cables stretched in 20 years and 306k miles? Maybe.

Either way I chucked up a short drop of 1/2" 303SS from a different job I just finished and thru-drilled 21/64", then removed the nut, installed my new super low-tech spacer and was much happier.

SuperLoTech spacer installed

Gets the nut mostly out of the adjuster so you can more easily get at it, but I still found access best with a pass-thru socket and ratcheting wrench

What this really allows you to do is feed the adjuster itself over the unthreaded portion of the threaded rod if you need to.
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Keith_L
I was just servicing our '02 CTD with the bastard D80/70 and one complaint of our volunteers was parking brake doesn't work.

I returned to my caveman checklist, and while there was some (enough, for now) friction material left on the shoes the adjuster was nearly maxed out. Was it solely worn shoes? Maybe. Have the cables stretched in 20 years and 306k miles? Maybe.

Either way I chucked up a short drop of 1/2" 303SS from a different job I just finished and thru-drilled 21/64", then removed the nut, installed my new super low-tech spacer and was much happier.

SuperLoTech spacer installed

Gets the nut mostly out of the adjuster so you can more easily get at it, but I still found access best with a pass-thru socket and ratcheting wrench

What this really allows you to do is feed the adjuster itself over the unthreaded portion of the threaded rod if you need to.
Good repair but that adjuster should not be moved once set. That means it is time for new shoes
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Good repair but that adjuster should not be moved once set. That means it is time for new shoes
God gave it threads and I'm usin' 'em!!!

Seriously, you're probably right, but cavemen like whatever works and this works for now!!!
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith_L
God gave it threads and I'm usin' 'em!!!

Seriously, you're probably right, but cavemen like whatever works and this works for now!!!
Oh believe me in all for whatever works. I've been there lol dang right you paid for the whole threads might as well use them
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Oh believe me in all for whatever works. I've been there lol dang right you paid for the whole threads might as well use them
The cables DO stretch over time, provided you actually USE the parking brake..... (I don't) so, some adjustment over time is likely a good idea in any event.
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 10:33 PM
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The cables DO stretch over time, provided you actually USE the parking brake..... (I don't) so, some adjustment over time is likely a good idea in any event.
Would they stretch that much though? I know I use my parking brake everytime I drive my manual. Heck the truck has been sitting now for 3 weeks (got a 4th gen) with the parking brake on. I think I sense a suggestion for ProjectFarm on YouTube
 
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Old 02-23-2022 | 10:48 PM
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There is a LOT of cable to stretch. Plus, if the brake adjusters are being naughty, or the shoes are worn, things get weird.
 
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Old 02-24-2022 | 10:30 AM
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Well and being my example is DIH the ONLY thing the shoes do is the parking brake. Which should also mean the shoes should theoretically never wear, but I'm sure our volunteers have been driving it with the parking brake on at times.

However DIH also means there's no auto adjuster and it's not really a safety issue if the shoes are worn because they are not your brakes. It is possible for things to go really sideways in there I suppose and effectively destroy a rotor (GMT800s with the 10b were good at this) but that would usually entail failure of shoe hold-downs.

One problem with the CTD and NV5600 is it can pull thru most parking brakes.
 



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