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What's the best option for trouble-free replacement steering box for 2nd gen trucks?

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Old 06-06-2024, 11:46 PM
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Does anyone know who makes the best replacement power steering gearboxes for 2nd gen trucks these days? I know reman'd steering gearboxes are a crap shoot at best. I'd like to replace it once and be done with the job.
 
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Wasn't there a thread hear that listed a new steering gear?
 
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Used to be RedHead, or Borgeson, but, I don't think either of them make boxes for 2nd gens any more. There was also the blue-top, a newcomer on the scene, and there is a thread about them around here somewhere...... I don't know if those are 'new', or just a different brand of re-man. The cardone/dorman/et. al. boxes at the local parts stores are truly hit or miss.... You may end up with a "new" box, that is worse than what you are replacing.....

I *think* there are rebuild kits available...... Not sure how successful folks have been with those.... and I wonder if just taking the box out, re-doing the two adjustments, and reinstalling would be just as effective......
 
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Used to be RedHead, or Borgeson, but, I don't think either of them make boxes for 2nd gens any more. There was also the blue-top, a newcomer on the scene, and there is a thread about them around here somewhere...... I don't know if those are 'new', or just a different brand of re-man. The cardone/dorman/et. al. boxes at the local parts stores are truly hit or miss.... You may end up with a "new" box, that is worse than what you are replacing.....

I *think* there are rebuild kits available...... Not sure how successful folks have been with those.... and I wonder if just taking the box out, re-doing the two adjustments, and reinstalling would be just as effective......
Blue top is reman too. Supposedly better than redhead these days.
 
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Wasn't there a thread hear that listed a new steering gear?
I recalled seeing it, but I can't seem to find it. Besides, now seems to be a good time to revisit this topic, since providers seem to keep changing/dropping out.
 
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Rock auto sells new Lares units. I believe the comment was that Saginaw hasn't made parts for these boxes in decades, so who knows where the parts are coming from, could be old reject stuff.
 
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Rock auto sells new Lares units. I believe the comment was that Saginaw hasn't made parts for these boxes in decades, so who knows where the parts are coming from, could be old reject stuff.
Has anyone purchased one of the new Lares units and been happy with it's performance?
 
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I'd like to know how the reman companies rebuild these, I've looked for the past hour for a Steering Gear Complete Rebuild Kit and no joy, I just see the reseal kits.
 
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I'd like to know how the reman companies rebuild these, I've looked for the past hour for a Steering Gear Complete Rebuild Kit and no joy, I just see the reseal kits.
Very few of the internal parts get replaced.... which is why the reman units uniformly suck. A couple of the 'big name' rebuilders would actually replace some of those parts, and make some improvements while they were in there... but, the newest of these trucks is working real hard on being an antique, so, the market for them is kinda dryin' up. Even though I still see a fair few of these guys on the road, even here in the rust belt.....

What would be nice, is if we could find a NEW, BETTER DESIGNED steering box for these trucks, but, that is a pretty forlorn hope...
 
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Either that or new replacement internal parts that wear. IF you can get your hands on a used box with low miles that would be better than most of the remans. The remans have worn gears that they just reuse. I poked around and did find a # for one of the gears but not the other. If by some chance you could find either nos complete steering gear or the internal gears would be the way to go. #3 is one of them. The image below that shows them both(sector gear and ball nut rack)



 


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