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Old Nov 1, 2024 | 10:07 PM
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01 2500 5.9 v8. The pinion has a bunch of play, clunking badly. According to it's vin it has rear disc brakes. It has drums. Can disc rears be swapped to drum with the correct backing plates and hardware? What is the date range for swaps? Do you adjust for a different ratio?
Large rear ends are expensive to rebuild, hence a swap. Axles nearby seem to fetch $250.00
 
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Old Nov 1, 2024 | 10:48 PM
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I'm assuming that you have the disc brake Dana 60 in the rear. If I were you, I'd opt to have it repaired if you can find a rear axle person in your area that does side work, as the disc brake Dana 60 may be a bit harder to find given it's short run in 2nd gen trucks. Disc brake Dana 60 option rears started with Dodge Ram 2500 trucks around July 2000. The bearing kit for that rear is pretty reasonable if you pick it up on eBay. I purchased one here locally off Craigslist several years ago and swapped out the drum brake Dana 60 rear I had in the truck originally. I also upgraded the gearing in the front and rear from 3.55 to 4.10 by purchasing used gears (hard to hurt Dana 60 gears) and new bearing kits off eBay and had a local differential guy set everything up. If you are bent out a rear swap, you can also check car-part.com to see if any Mom & Pop salvage yard near you might have one for sale.

After re-reading your thread, it sounds like you may have a drum brake Dana 60. I believe the disc brake rear housing has the disc brake mounting setup welded to the rear housing tubes, so I don't believe it's an easy swap of backing plates to go from drum to disc.
 

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If I wasn't clear the truck has rear drum brakes. By vin it was supposed to have disc brakes. I'm afraid the pinion slop may have damaged the ring gear, and if so filled the case with metal.I can go with second gen. I got this from the forum.
1994-1995 LD 2500: Chrysler 9.25 1994-2002 HD 2500 5.9L gas V8: Dana 60 1994-2002 HD 2500 V10/diesel auto: Dana 70 1994-2002 HD 2500 V10/diesel manual: Dana 80 1994-2002 3500: Dana 80
I may have found a 70.
Are drums and backing plates swapable between 60 and seventy series axles?
 
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If you have a 5.9 magnum engine, you should have a Dana 60. If I were you, I'd remove the inspection cover and see what's going on in the rear. I'd suspect that the ring and pinion are likely fine, as Dana 60 ring and pinions are pretty stout. When the pinion gets sloppy, it typically smacks into the carrier and may leave some pinion teeth marks on it.
 
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There are also two versions of the 2500, 8800 & 7500 lbs. I know the front brakes are a bit different but not sure about the rears.
I'd remove the inspection cover and see what's going on in the rear.
X2! If you do need a ring get all the parts needed for the swap and see if anybody local can do it for you if this in not something you can handle.
The pinion has a bunch of play, clunking badly.
I would assume you looked at the nut to see it didn't back itself off some how?
 
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Yeah, the light duty 2500's had corporate 9.25 rear diff.... it was beefed up a bit for the additional weight, but, still, not nearly as stout as the d60.

Your rear might be just fine, and its just the front pinion bearing that is bad. Pull the cover, drain the fluid, see what you find in it, go from there.
 
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You can order a kit of just pinion bearings and seal. Not sure if these 60s used a crush sleeve?

Pull the cover. Good chance R&P are fine.

To DIY you'll just need an inch lb torque wrench and a giant cheater if crush sleeve. You can have a local shop pull the lower pinion bearing and press on a new one.

You *can* run a pattern afterward but honestly if pinion bearing preload is good, IT IS WHAT IS -- unless carrier bearings are shot (probably not)
 
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I had my pinion nut walk loose on my D80, outside of some rub marks there was no damage at all, It was even at the point where it was lurching while driving from binding up. I would suspect you would be in the same situation, does your truck have the frame mounted proportioning valve? I would suspect it was factory drums if it does. VIN searches are not always perfect.

Definitely recommend a bracket to old the yoke when torqueing the pinion, worst part of the whole job in my opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by dodgetruck2
I had my pinion nut walk loose on my D80, outside of some rub marks there was no damage at all, It was even at the point where it was lurching while driving from binding up. I would suspect you would be in the same situation, does your truck have the frame mounted proportioning valve? I would suspect it was factory drums if it does. VIN searches are not always perfect.

Definitely recommend a bracket to old the yoke when torqueing the pinion, worst part of the whole job in my opinion.
Considering both my trucks supposedly came from the factory with Rack and Pinion steering.... Yeah, sometimes, the vin decoder ain't quite right. But, that's more of a terminology issue than anything else.
 
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Originally Posted by dodgetruck2
I had my pinion nut walk loose on my D80, outside of some rub marks there was no damage at all, It was even at the point where it was lurching while driving from binding up. I would suspect you would be in the same situation, does your truck have the frame mounted proportioning valve? I would suspect it was factory drums if it does. VIN searches are not always perfect.

Definitely recommend a bracket to old the yoke when torqueing the pinion, worst part of the whole job in my opinion.
Yep different axle but this happens in TJ D35 rears every 100k miles. You'll have gouge marks on the carrier but just install new pinion bearings properly and carry on.....
 
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