46re tranny ?
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RE: 46re tranny ?
ORIGINAL: GOD RAM IT
it is no where near 4qt extra.
It is 4 qt extra for the 518 and 727 trannys but not for the 46RE. I posted the pictures above. The Mopar pan is the same capacity as the B&M, but minus the cooling fins.
GET THE TCI PAN! Its 10 or 20 bucks more than the B&M and you get more holding capacity.
it is no where near 4qt extra.
It is 4 qt extra for the 518 and 727 trannys but not for the 46RE. I posted the pictures above. The Mopar pan is the same capacity as the B&M, but minus the cooling fins.
GET THE TCI PAN! Its 10 or 20 bucks more than the B&M and you get more holding capacity.
I don't see any part numbers for the Mopar pans in question. There is a pan for the 727, and one for the 518 (46RH/RE...also fits 47RH/RE). They are two different pans for two DIFFERENT transmissions. Just because the 727 pan fits doesn't mean it's the same
Were the correct pans being measured? I don't think they were. In fact, I'm almost betting it wasn't the correct pan, since the pan for the A-518 (P5007740AB) is 3.9" deep according to Mopar and is only quoted as adding 2 extra quarts to the sump (not 4 as BR claimed in the thread). The A500 pan (42RE) is 4.5" deep.
There is no depth measurements listed for the 727 and 904 pans, but the 42RE and 46/47RE/RH pans are already deeper than the old 727 pans. That's common knowledge in the 1st gen world....that's why our stock pans (especially the 47RH/RE pans which are the deepest) are sought after by those who have 727s. Cheap pan upgrade.
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RE: 46re tranny ?
yes I understand and know all of this. I had bought a couple of pans to figure this out. And BR was wrong and even stated that his 46RH tranny pan wasnt much if any larger than the mopar one. The mopar one isnt any extra capacity. Maybe a 1/2 of a quart.
The B&M pan was that correct one. Most of the pans you see fit all of them and even put all of the above trannys as a fit for these pans. Even the TCI pan that I bought says 4qt for 727 and only 2qt extra for 46RE but most pan descriptions dont say that.
Almost all of the pans out there will list every tranny it will fit and then also say that they hold X amount more fluid but you have to double check with the manufacturer for depth. Otherwise it may have just been extra capacity for a 727.
The B&M pan was that correct one. Most of the pans you see fit all of them and even put all of the above trannys as a fit for these pans. Even the TCI pan that I bought says 4qt for 727 and only 2qt extra for 46RE but most pan descriptions dont say that.
Almost all of the pans out there will list every tranny it will fit and then also say that they hold X amount more fluid but you have to double check with the manufacturer for depth. Otherwise it may have just been extra capacity for a 727.
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RE: 46re tranny ?
TCI is about the only site that lays it down. most of the other sites dont tell you that the trannys with OD wont have the same extra capacity.
http://www.tciauto.com/components/transmission_pans.htm
http://www.tciauto.com/components/transmission_pans.htm
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RE: 46re tranny ?
ORIGINAL: GOD RAM IT
And BR was wrong and even stated that his 46RH tranny pan wasnt much if any larger than the mopar one. The mopar one isnt any extra capacity. Maybe a 1/2 of a quart.
And BR was wrong and even stated that his 46RH tranny pan wasnt much if any larger than the mopar one. The mopar one isnt any extra capacity. Maybe a 1/2 of a quart.
Especially if they claim the TCI pan, which is 4.5 (.6" deeper than the Mopar pan) holds 2 extra quarts. Just doing the math would bring you to the logical conclusion that it holds more. And if the RH pan is shallower, it would extend the capacity even more for that transmission....since it started with a more shallow pan in the first place. Just going on logic there again based on everything that was said in that thread...and said here.
I don't know how much shallower the RH pan is, as I don't have two pans to measure. All I know is the 47 model had the deeper of the pans...and 1st gen owners are always looking for a pan from a 2nd gen CTD for their truck.
And I still didn't see a part # anywhere that stated WHICH Mopar pan was being talked about/tried/measured.
And yes, I realize the OD pans are deeper. That is why Mopar has 4 different pans instead of two.
P5007795AB A-500deep cast pan-1989-2001,4.5"deep <- OD Pan
P5007740AB A-518 deep cast pan- 1990-2001,3.9" deep <- OD Pan
P5007793AB A-727 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
P5007794AB A-904 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
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RE: 46re tranny ?
ORIGINAL: The Burning Rom
If your stock pan is 3"...and the Mopar pan is 3.9" (almost an inch deeper), it IS going to hold extra fluid...more than 1/2 a quart. Especially if they claim the TCI pan, which is 4.5 (.6" deeper than the Mopar pan) holds 2 extra quarts. Just doing the math would bring you to the logical conclusion that it holds more.
And if the RH pan is shallower, it would extend the capacity even more for that transmission....since it started with a more shallow pan in the first place. Just going on logic there again based on everything that was said in that thread...and said here.
I don't know how much shallower the RH pan is, as I don't have two pans to measure. All I know is the 47 model had the deeper of the pans...and 1st gen owners are always looking for a pan from a 2nd gen CTD for their truck.
And I still didn't see a part # anywhere that stated WHICH Mopar pan was being talked about/tried/measured.
And yes, I realize the OD pans are deeper. That is why Mopar has 4 different pans instead of two.
P5007795AB A-500deep cast pan-1989-2001,4.5"deep <- OD Pan
P5007740AB A-518 deep cast pan- 1990-2001,3.9" deep <- OD Pan
P5007793AB A-727 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
P5007794AB A-904 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
ORIGINAL: GOD RAM IT
And BR was wrong and even stated that his 46RH tranny pan wasnt much if any larger than the mopar one. The mopar one isnt any extra capacity. Maybe a 1/2 of a quart.
And BR was wrong and even stated that his 46RH tranny pan wasnt much if any larger than the mopar one. The mopar one isnt any extra capacity. Maybe a 1/2 of a quart.
Especially if they claim the TCI pan, which is 4.5 (.6" deeper than the Mopar pan) holds 2 extra quarts. Just doing the math would bring you to the logical conclusion that it holds more. And if the RH pan is shallower, it would extend the capacity even more for that transmission....since it started with a more shallow pan in the first place. Just going on logic there again based on everything that was said in that thread...and said here.
I don't know how much shallower the RH pan is, as I don't have two pans to measure. All I know is the 47 model had the deeper of the pans...and 1st gen owners are always looking for a pan from a 2nd gen CTD for their truck.
And I still didn't see a part # anywhere that stated WHICH Mopar pan was being talked about/tried/measured.
And yes, I realize the OD pans are deeper. That is why Mopar has 4 different pans instead of two.
P5007795AB A-500deep cast pan-1989-2001,4.5"deep <- OD Pan
P5007740AB A-518 deep cast pan- 1990-2001,3.9" deep <- OD Pan
P5007793AB A-727 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
P5007794AB A-904 deep cast pan <- 3spd Pan
The TCI 4.5" is from the inside to the top. I could guarantee that 3.9" is from top to bottom on the outside of the Mopar pan.
The mopar pan must have been the 7740ab that Snowjay and BR were talking about.
We are saying the same things.
The only thing I know is that when I called the MOPAR tech line they said they didnt have an extra capacity pan for my 46re.