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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ericemery
Yay, let's bash dodge for making vehicles from steel...
Yay, lets makem from plastic next! Please please pleassssssssssseeeeeeeeee
 
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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NO... Let's make them out of clay.

Get a dent, and you can mold it back to original. Also give new meaning to clay barring your truck.

and I am still in awe to Frenchy agreeing with me 200 - 300%
 
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lghtngblt02
Yay, lets makem from plastic next! Please please pleassssssssssseeeeeeeeee

Buy a Saturn.


Originally Posted by Altair
A warranty from the manufacturer is a guarantee against defects, it's not meant to cover things outside the dealer's control.
Even though your reply was directed elsewhere, what you said in the quote is basically my point in a nutshell. As someone who, as a profession, has painted on vehicles, helmets, and various other surfaces (also having done a lot of work in and around body shops), it's my personal (and professional) opinion that the way these newer car's finishes take NO abuse is a 'defect' in and of itself. And no, I'm not beating on Dodge either. I owned Chevys before my Daks and I used to **** and moan to the dealer about the crap paint jobs on those trucks too, and how easily they would chip. They never rusted though, by the way.

As far as rusting from dings and dents, one would think that zinc baths should go a long way to solving that problem, even when the finish is compromised. It's quite obvious that it hasn't though, just from the posts from our little group here.

I've worked a lot with baked aluminum panels, among other painted substrates, and it's pretty pathetic when baked on sh*t enamel holds up better on them than the finish on a $30K+ vehicle.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Racinartist
Buy a Saturn.
haha yeah, the gf has one gotta convert her,lol but it is practically all plastic/fiberglass/styrofoam...
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgesForLife24
Wow lmao this is just getting pathetic....
Hopefully you aren't serious because.......seats and rust? Those are two COMPLETELY different things. A knife is my fault, a rock isn't...a rock is beyond my control..."


Just my 2cents

um ya, the rock is also beyond the dealers control! they don't tell you where to drive, or have any insight as to how and or where a rock will strike its just a fact of life! you can't avoid it, life is not always fair.
I just had to replace my winshield, yes diferent than rust but not a big deal. it's just a rock (a natural part of this earth)

Getting stressed about a simple fix is not worth it.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgesForLife24
Rust is awesome.
This is a public forum once again, and because other members dont agree doesnt mean you have to act like a child and erase every post you made. If ya want help in the future I would be sure you change your ways else no one will care. Good day
 

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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I agree
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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It seems that she knows about filing claims with insurance and going after the PROPER person when fault is there.

The rock, not being the dealers fault, is indeed the city/state/property owners fault and she needs to be contacting them.

"ahhhhhh, excuse me Mr.Mayor, but a rock that was left behind by your street cleaning crew was thrown up and chipped my truck. Here are 3 estimates to have it repaired. Let me know which one you would like to use."


PUBLIC FORUM GOES WILD - - - Get it now for $19.95 plus $1,000,000 shipping and handling. Please allow 4-6 years for delivery.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Racinartist
The better question is, why SHOULDN'T they cover it? Comparing body rust from paint chips to body damage from an accident is like comparing apples to...sushi.

I know...I know, I work at a dealer, so anything I post will seem biased... But why should the dealer be responsible for rust caused by rock chips. I have not seen a good reason for this posted yet. If you have your truck painted at an auto body shop, are they responsible for rust caused by rock chips? IMHO, the bottom line is you have to take responsibility for your truck. If you get a chip, it is your responsibility touch it up if you don't want it to rust. If you don't touch it up and it rusts, that is your fault. Why should the dealer be liable for your negligence.

Out of the warranty manual...
This warranty covers the cost of all parts and labor needed to repair or replace any sheet metal panels that get holes from rust or other corrosion. If a hole occurs because of something other than corrosion, this warranty does not apply. Cosmetic or surface corrosion — resulting, for example, from stone chips or scratches in the paint — is not covered.
Your warranties don’t cover the following:
• corrosion caused by accident, damage, abuse,
or vehicle alteration;
• surface corrosion caused by such things as
industrial fallout, sand, salt, hail, and stones;
• corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal
transport of caustic materials like chemicals,
acids, and fertilizers; and
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Parts/Service
IMHO, the bottom line is you have to take responsibility for your truck. If you get a chip, it is your responsibility touch it up if you don't want it to rust. If you don't touch it up and it rusts, that is your fault. Why should the dealer be liable for your negligence.
Using that philosophy, if whatever is causing my engine tick that I've taken my truck to the dealer about (and been told by them it's "normal" and doesn't warrant taking the engine apart) ends up causing a catastrophic failure, it's my responsibility because I was negligent and didn't take matters into my own hands and fix it myself.

Originally Posted by Parts/Service
Out of the warranty manual...
Your warranties don’t cover the following:
• corrosion caused by accident, damage, abuse,
or vehicle alteration;
• surface corrosion caused by such things as
industrial fallout, sand, salt, hail, and stones;
• corrosion caused by the extensive or abnormal
transport of caustic materials like chemicals,
acids, and fertilizers; and
After reading that, I would draw the conclusion that corrosion warranties on new vehicles are basically nothing more than window dressing (ie, complete BS).

Originally Posted by Parts/Service
But why should the dealer be responsible for rust caused by rock chips. I have not seen a good reason for this posted yet.
Refer back to this post. I thought that's what I was doing here.


Originally Posted by Racinartist

Even though your reply was directed elsewhere, what you said in the quote is basically my point in a nutshell. As someone who, as a profession, has painted on vehicles, helmets, and various other surfaces (also having done a lot of work in and around body shops), it's my personal (and professional) opinion that the way these newer car's finishes take NO abuse is a 'defect' in and of itself. And no, I'm not beating on Dodge either. I owned Chevys before my Daks and I used to **** and moan to the dealer about the crap paint jobs on those trucks too, and how easily they would chip. They never rusted though, by the way.

As far as rusting from dings and dents, one would think that zinc baths should go a long way to solving that problem, even when the finish is compromised. It's quite obvious that it hasn't though, just from the posts from our little group here.

I've worked a lot with baked aluminum panels, among other painted substrates, and it's pretty pathetic when baked on sh*t enamel holds up better on them than the finish on a $30K+ vehicle.
 

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