4x4 issues 2005 3.7
all dodge sees is an opportunity to make money
the only real test would be to find a used one and swap it
Not so much way to make money, I feel ram has always been playing "keeping up with the jones" They're always the last to add certain features, especially unnecessary comfort features.
GM and Ford had electric t cases in the early 90s already, took ram until the very late 90s to bring them in on the dakota and durango, and early 2000s for full size trucks.
Just recently ram ditched the favored "moose ear" mirrors for a similar non flip out design to finally have power extend mirrors. Something Ford and GM have had for 20 years, but relatively unnecessary.
Jeep finally offering a true fullsize SUV, something not found in any mopar related product for almost 50 years, while Ford and GM continued to produce such vehicles
Ram finally offering a cab bigger than the quad cab in 06, something they hadn't done for 30 years while GM and Ford made decent sized cabs
Not so much way to make money, I feel ram has always been playing "keeping up with the jones" They're always the last to add certain features, especially unnecessary comfort features.
GM and Ford had electric t cases in the early 90s already, took ram until the very late 90s to bring them in on the dakota and durango, and early 2000s for full size trucks.
Just recently ram ditched the favored "moose ear" mirrors for a similar non flip out design to finally have power extend mirrors. Something Ford and GM have had for 20 years, but relatively unnecessary.
Jeep finally offering a true fullsize SUV, something not found in any mopar related product for almost 50 years, while Ford and GM continued to produce such vehicles
Ram finally offering a cab bigger than the quad cab in 06, something they hadn't done for 30 years while GM and Ford made decent sized cabs
Last edited by dodgetruck2; Jan 28, 2025 at 08:03 PM.
the only real test would be to find a used one and swap it
Not so much way to make money, I feel ram has always been playing "keeping up with the jones" They're always the last to add certain features, especially unnecessary comfort features.
GM and Ford had electric t cases in the early 90s already, took ram until the very late 90s to bring them in on the dakota and durango, and early 2000s for full size trucks.
Just recently ram ditched the favored "moose ear" mirrors for a similar non flip out design to finally have power extend mirrors. Something Ford and GM have had for 20 years, but relatively unnecessary.
Jeep finally offering a true fullsize SUV, something not found in any mopar related product for almost 50 years, while Ford and GM continued to produce such vehicles
Ram finally offering a cab bigger than the quad cab in 06, something they hadn't done for 30 years while GM and Ford made decent sized cabs
Not so much way to make money, I feel ram has always been playing "keeping up with the jones" They're always the last to add certain features, especially unnecessary comfort features.
GM and Ford had electric t cases in the early 90s already, took ram until the very late 90s to bring them in on the dakota and durango, and early 2000s for full size trucks.
Just recently ram ditched the favored "moose ear" mirrors for a similar non flip out design to finally have power extend mirrors. Something Ford and GM have had for 20 years, but relatively unnecessary.
Jeep finally offering a true fullsize SUV, something not found in any mopar related product for almost 50 years, while Ford and GM continued to produce such vehicles
Ram finally offering a cab bigger than the quad cab in 06, something they hadn't done for 30 years while GM and Ford made decent sized cabs
Pretty much a thing of the past now, I'm not sure you can find a floor shift in any model now days, my dad recently bought a new 22 Tradesman, has the buttons on the dash.
Yeah, it seems everyone is moving to more and more 'tech' in their vehicles, weather we want/need it or not..... Of course, that drives up the price of the vehicle, increases complexity, introduces more failure points, and the general result is a vehicle that is less reliable than those of the past. Probably one of the biggest reasons I still drive a truck that now qualifies as an antique......
The new vehicle industry is pretty much a legal scam anymore. The made up gross markup on the tech is ridiculous. $5000 dollars for a chip made in chines at a cost of half a penny, to provide a function you don't even want. I've heard of subscriptions services being required now for functions in a vehicle you already bought on said markup (not counting Sirius, that's been around for decades, becoming a scam itself too.)
My dad bought a new 22 Carry over last summer. The cash price was higher then the finance price, what sense does that make, the dealer gets a kick back from the bank for pushing the financing so they drop the price over cash.
My dad bought a new 22 Carry over last summer. The cash price was higher then the finance price, what sense does that make, the dealer gets a kick back from the bank for pushing the financing so they drop the price over cash.






