Thanks man! I appreciate it, it is actually some of your fab work that inspired me!

 

I'm neither here nor there on the issue. I respect the work you put into it and understand where you're coming from with the reinforcement, I also understand the other side as I would NOT want to see what those would do in an accident! They basically look like they would turn into two spears.

Good work on it all tho. On a completely unrelated not where in the eff did you find the 8 inch lift??? I see fabtec but have not been able to find more than 4 inch kits

 

There's a bunch of ways people get huge lifts. 1) is all custom from a shop. 2) adding a regular 6" lift then adding a 3" body lift. 3) after people add lifts on top of body lifts, they will add a leveling kit/ crank the torsions for an extra inch. 4) 2wd's can get 3" lift spindles, then 2.5" coil spacer or larger springs, then a 3" body lift.

I question the safety of adding a variety of different lifts and I'm not really into the style of an overly lifted truck. I like either a leveled or a 3-4" lifted truck max.

 

I have the fabtech 6 inch on here with the level keys I originally put in the truck, and I don't have those set to max yet. Also I have the fabtech add a leaf (which was supposed to put the rear as high as the front) and I had to buy 4 inch blocks (the rear still doesn't sit as tall as the front, lol)

I have no body lift, that would compromise the integrity of the bumpers and such.

 

I think what you've done is pretty cool. You've made a fun truck. I see Izero's point (you must be an engineer izero to know about 3rd derivative jerk, haha) about the safety of others, but what the heck, you only live once. Hopefully you never have to find out if someone will sue you.

Nice work anyway, bottom line is if you like it then stick to your guns. Everyone has their opinion.

 

Holy F$%k dude...haha I was thinking at first the plate is the same principle behind the tow hooks for the 1500's with a flat piece of 1/4" steel between the 2 front members. Then I seen the whole rollcage upfront...lmao
A bit overkill yeah, But I like it. Do you plan on running anyone off the road soon?....hahahahaha


So, then in theory, what he has done is reniforced his frame while offroading, YET, if he were to get into an accident with those welds done by a "cheap mig", it would still indeed create a crumple zone when they break due to their weakness? Just sayin. Can't argue it both ways even though at the bottom of your first quoted post you say it prob wouldnt hold up anyways.

As far as a lawsuit. i doubt it. You can modify your vehicle anyway you please as long as you don't remove airbags or safety equip devices.
There's no resitriction on adding reinforcement.etc.
The ONLY way he could get sued by anyone, is a passenger in his truck if they didn't know about his modifications and their injuries were a direct result of his modifications.
If they knew, no lawsuit. His insurance would still have to pay out regardless, even if they found out what modifications he had done as long as it wasnt taking away from the factory equip saftey features.

If he caused serious injury to someone else in another car, they wouldn't have anymore grounds for increased lawsuit than if his truck were stock.

 

Just put a disclaimer on your dash for passengers to read. There. No lawsuit.

 

hahahahahaa. It'd still be a very tough case regardless. You could argue the fact that your pasenger never asked how the crash test results were. Because, when was the last time you asked a driver how their car has done in crash results before egtting in their car..lol..Prob never. Cars dont even have to be rated to be considered safe.
Matter of FACT. I have my build sheet right in front of me!!
Guess what?
Frontal Driver and Frontal Passenger ratings: NOT RATED! So there, can't possibly be sued because there's nothing to compare it against...lol

 

I think its sweet!

 

Thanks man!

I just finished adding this plate on, not I only have to finish the push bar!