i had a k&n on my last vehicle and did some pretty crazy crap in it. never had a problem. my current set up is an AFE stage 2 high breather cai. i do however clean and re-oil with the k&n filter kit. it's all the same crap. AFE says to only use their product, but you cant get it locally. Only difference i can see is the AFE oil is blue and the k&n is pink.

 

Well you are batting a 1000

I think this was your opening remark

........And if you happen to drive througha moderately deep puddle with enough speed you can kiss your motor good-bye as it sucks up water throught your very pourous "high performance" drop-in K&N filter.

Which me thinks is pretty much a sarcastic and direct attack on us K&N drop-in users,espeically the quotes around "high performance", not to mention the person you were quoating.

What OldMoparMan said is true, it would not have mattered one bit that day, stock or not. You would have been dead in the water....Oh forgive me for that pun,sweet baby Jesus. That was funny I don't care who ya are.

But here are some pics of how my stock air box is laid out and a pic of the wheel well because I can not see how water could Ram Jet into that area. It just ain’t happening, sorry.

Top View:
Snorkel is below the filter and points to the front and bends 90 degreesand opening faces the fender.
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Side View:
Air flow is in red, air enters thru ye old snorkel and into air box then UP thru ye old filter.
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Wheel Well View:
Looks pretty darn solid to me. Remember the intake opening isabove the wheel well and towards the front.
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Weeeeeeeee-Wooooooooo-Weeeeeeee-Wooooooo-Weeeeeeeeee.........

 

Remind me not to **** off Pappy.

 

 

You guys are incredibly dense.

Listen Pappy, I don't need pictures. All the Ram's are the same. I originally meant the intake comes fromABOVE the wheel well. Since you didn't take a picture of the start of the air intake directly behind the passenger side bumper it tells me one of two things - either you are clueless or youconveniently left that picture out. I'll explain that crucial part of the intake.

All it takes is for the water level to be even 1 inch higher than the bottom of the wheel well cowl(down near the bumper - sorry, no pictures) and the water will ride right up the cowl (behind the headlight) and right into your airbox. I know this is a difficult concept for you, but think real hard[&:].

 

Kettle.....pot.

It's all K&N's fault. It's Aaaaaalllll K&N's fault.

Here's a few more things I've found related to K&N:

1.) Global warming
2.) Premature Ejaculation
3.) Potholes
4.) Ford's paint pealing issue in the 1980's
5.) Firestone tire failures
6.) Breast Implant Explosions
7.) Slow Economy in Peru
8.) The yellow color of Urine
9.) Holes in Swiss Cheese
10.) Starving children in 3rd world countries.

 

Ha Ha.

It's not K&N's fault. It is simply the fact that the drop-in filter by K&N is not a good idea due to the design of the Ram air intake. Water runs right through it. This is not the case with the stock paper filter.

It's funny, I talked with an experienced mechanic after my motor hydrolocked and I didn't mention anything about the fact that I had put a K&N drop-in filter in the truck. The first thing he asked me was if I had by any chance put a K&N drop-in filter into my truck. He knew instantly what had caused the hydrolock. He must be psychic.

 

Look.....lets clear the air about something here:

I'm in TOTAL agreement with you regarding K&N filters being more open, and less restrictive then stock filters. They flow more air, or in your case: water. That's what they're designed to do.

What you fail to realize, is that this would have happened with a STOCK filter, if your truck ingested enough water to fill the airbox, go up the intake tube, fill the muffler box and then hydrolock at least 4 out of 8 cylinders. I've seen stock filters popped out of the box, because the psi from the water and suction from the intake yanked them out of their respective mounts.

My issue here, is that you're making it sound as if putting a K&N filter in your truck is a disaster waiting to happen, and that's not true at all.

Secondly, if you knew anything about off-roading, you never go fast into water, if your engine isn't waterproofed (Ignition, water intake elevated or barriered) or you're asking for exactly what YOU got: Water in the engine or in places where it normally wouldn't go.

I'm truely sorry you hydrolocked your engine, but I don't care WHAT your experienced mechanic said. Mechanic's opinions are like a$$holes: Everyone has one. (and they usually stink) This place is living proof of that. If your mechanic said eating eggs are bad for you, I can only imagine you'd be at www.Eggs-R-Good.com forums, telling everyone about how bad they are, because someone TOLD you they were.

Just because YOUR mechainc asked if you had a K&N, now you want to come onto a public forum, and bad mouth a product because YOU had an issue with one, that it's painfully obvious that you're blaming the filter for YOUR inability to navagate a water puddle with an improperly prepared truck for water hazards.......

That doesn't make your mechanic "Psychic" it means he's seen more then one dork run his truck full bore into water and bind up the engine with water. The K&N was just the common denominator.

THAT'S what I'm getting at...............

I'm done. You can go back to the river you hydrolocked your truck at. De-Nile.........[8D]

 

Finally, we agree on something.