6-speed ls1's trap 107-108 easy at sea level...hell I trapped 105ish with an auto and drop-in filter. STI's trap around 100-101 stock...AWD's good for ET's that's the only reason they hit low 13's. BTW it's a hell of a lot harder to launch a turboed AWD car than a rwd n/a one...so the driving thing goes both ways.

 

Arguable. With the STi, you can rev it high, dump the clutch, and go. The turbo is spooled and traction is not an issue.

The RWD car as a better chance of spinning off the line.

I am not arguing that an stock LS1 won't beat a stock STi, but driving skills come into play with either car.

 

Not if i had a cummin turbo diesel with with superchips and all that stuff... it could beat the sti easily... look at this website, i dont know if you have ever heard of this but here goes.. www.blackpatchdiesel.com

 

Lol try to beat this Sti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5zILb_5BSc

 

holy crap, did you see how fast that CTD loaded up?! damn, and I thought our diesels were fast (EMD). man, I just got the chills.

btw, when I say 'our diesels are fast' I mean that they can pick up and recover from a 5000 hp dump (yes, 5 thousand) in about 2 seconds. but that CTD right there did probably close to 1000 hp in like 1/4 second...chills

 

i love how it just pours the smoke and i am going to drop a deisel like that in a car and then no one will evern come close to touching me

 

I've been launching AWD cars for 16 years. The turbo is not spooled at all until you begin slipping the clutch. Dump it and you'll bog and sit there while your opponent drives away. Slip the clutch too slowly and you glaze it and it won't hook. Only an automatic turbo car, or one with a stutterbox launch control, can launch on boost.

The STi is geared so short that your 1-2 shift happens before you pass the tree! My 5spd is easier to launch because of that.

For every stock 104+ mph LS1 F-body, I've seen a 99-100 mph LS1 F-body. It's hit and miss with stock power, with the 01-02 models usually being a little hotter. I'm in my 11th year of membership at camaroz28.com so I've seen quite a lot of timeslips & races.

If you want to see some turbo AWD races, check out the videos of my old Dodge Stealth

 

As far as spooling goes, terminology mix up on my part. I meant the compressor was spinning fast enough to produce boost once a load comes on the engine. I did not mean it had any pressure in the manifold. The STi should be producing boost very quickly, once launched, above 4000 rpm.

Dump it? Okay, too much. Let it out at a feathered, fast rate.

As far as building boost on the line in a manual, you can always brake boost.

The LS1 needs technique to launch as well.

Again, not arguing stock LS1 vs stock STi. I think its a drivers race.

 

not sure exactly what 'brake boost' is, but it sounds to me like it would really **** off the clutch.

and the compressor/turbine on a turbo are not spinning super fast on a free-reving engine. they need to be loaded to get exhaust pressure to spin fast.

 

If this is a repost, sorry I did not read the entire thing.

The WRX STI is a AWD 4 cylinder car. It has a Turbo, not super or even both like I read somewhere.

Stock the car runs low 13s. With a Stage 2 kit and some turbo work to keep boost lag away it can run mid – high 12s.

Where the STI or even plan WRX gets most cars is from a dig. They can launch so hard its hard for a V-8 to catch up. The little 4 cylinder has pretty good top end which even makes it harder to catch up.

I don’t see any 5.7 touching it without some major upgrades.