..in my experience..you get one or the other...a stock diesel runnin 15's or a chipped turbo cummins runnin 11's and better...almost no in-between...I have one the fastest na stock block hemi qc's around with a lot of money into her (and run 13.10 1/4's)...i ran a stacked diesel on the street and he walked away from me....he was actually shocked that the race was much closer then he thought (lost by 1 length after about a 1/4 mile)..

 

Stock the ctd is a dog...at least the 2500 qc 4x4 that I test drove was. I knew their potential though so I didn't hold that against it .

 

My buddies 05 dirtymax. mild superchip, home made intake, obviously exhaust.

he runs low 14's all day long. btw, 14's for a 9000 lb truck, is damn good.

 

Yeah theres no way you can beat a chipped up diesel without investing some green. Gears cams and nos. Or you could just buy a 2500 with a cummins and that way youd win everytime

 

Yea, I drove a 2004 2500 4-door Cummins, and that thing when I hammered on it had about as much get up and go as my uncle's 2500HD 6.0 Vortec with a stock trailer on back.

 

i beat a diesel it was a 08 2500 4door beat him by maybe 1/2 a truck thats was with my 17's and 29 inch tires

 

He didnt know you were racin!!!

 

Or the diesel was stock...i'd do worse than that to a stocker. The majority of ctd's you see on the road are bone stock.

 

I own a 06 2500 with the 5.7 and 6sp manual, I hold my own against any ctd with a 6sp, as long as booth my truck and a CTD are empty, I have a true dual ex, voalant CAI and a frozen botle of water in the intake.

First, your not going to beat a CTD in all out power
2nd, thease dudes with the tripped out lifted CTD sink a lot of money into thier trucks, just so they can go fast on pavement, drive a chipped ctd on a gravel road at high speeds and thease guys roll thier trucks, gravel is = to driving on ball bearings..

(SAME COULD BE SIAD FOR SOME HEMI OWNERS )

3rd, who cares, the hemi is a great engine, nothing wrong with it all, even in stock fourm in a 2500 its the best gas engine in a 3/4 ton.

4rth THe CTD is suited for torque, torque gets you moving quickly, I;m speaking of the 5.9, the new 6.7 really hasent won me over ( posted in the CTD section )

My hemi is in a nice SLT reg cab 4x4, if your in a quad cab, or quad cab with a long box, the hemi is not built for drag racing, just quit and save your money, or up grade as you see fit and leave the CTD crowd alone.

 

There's nothing magic about the CTD's power production. It's because it's big cubes + forced induction. The fact that it's in a HD truck means the rest of the drivetrain is better prepared to handle the power. Diesel is particularly suited to forced induction because it better tolerates the added heat.

You can turbo a Hemi, but like any add-on turbo it isn't anywhere near as good as a factory setup. Aftermarket programming methods just don't offer he same level of tuning control as an OEM setup. If there was a way to fit a Roots-style blower to a Hemi it'd be a lot closer comparison.

The inline 6 form is not holding back the Cummins in the power department. That's an inherently strong package with better natural balance and thicker walls in the block.

FWIW, gasoline engines can make the same kind of power. My brother's Mercedes (CL65 AMG) makes 740 torque bone stock, and does so from 2k through 4k rpm. Chip it and it goes to over 900 ft/lbs. That's just what turbos + cubes (6.0 liter v12) will do for you.

I run even with a friend's chipped/intake/exhaust 2wd 7.3 Excursion. I know, mine is 1k lbs lighter since it's a 1500 but I'm still happy with "just" a Hemi.