No offense, but most of what you just said isn't worth the pixels it was displayed on.

A: Aeroforce does NOT have any "fuel sensors". The only thing it does is relay info from the OBD II port. You CAN NOT use knock retard to determine if you have the correct air fuel.

B:What makes you think the AEM gauge is real time, but the aeroforce AF module is not? They both use the SAME EXACT bosch sensor. As far as being "legit," what makes the AEM legit and the aeroforce AF kit not legit?

I'm not trying to confront you, I just want to make sure that people get real information and understand what they're talking about.

 

They are both real time..the aeroforce version is one piece of data out of 30. The AEM version is a gauge of its own. If A/F ratio is important to you I would recommend the AEM version because it is plug and play setup and is a single direct feed (numerically and color coded), rather than scrolling through your 8 selection feed. And yes knock has very much to do with air fuel ratio. For instance if major knock events are recorded and exceed my preset levels, mybackup maps can be set to kick in and drop AFR from 11.2:1 to 10.5:1. It all matters how important it is to you. Plus the AEM has two wiring harness so no need to splice. I easily welded my bung next to the oxygen sensor before my cat.

 

My aeroforce reads AF full time. Do you even know what you are talking about? I also had the AEM before the aeroforce and I beg to differ because it most definately requires splice. There is no Plug and play for ignition and 12+. So you're splicing in the EXACT SAME WIRES.

I'd love to hear more about your "back up maps".

I say it again, YOU CAN NOT DETERMINE AF FROM KR.

 

I know you can set it up to scan multiple things or cycle it but there is no reason to cycle through every paremter. I'll go through and check that stuff every now and then or just do a data log on my diablo once a month or so. Mainly I have been monitoring my trans and coolant temps because of some of the new parts I added. Once I get the wideband I'll have it and the trans temps up for the most part.

 

whoa there...

AEM gauge has one wiring harness to the battery and one wiring harness to the sensor. No splicing rubber frog.

Once more I said they are both obviously real time.

And knock is obviously related to a/f..if youre running lean or rich you adjust...that is the whole point of watching your a/f. wikipedia it or something.

 

so then you have no need for the aem. case closed. its a personal preference. go with the aeroforce.

 

Wait, so one goes to the battery (and I'll assume a ground) and one goes to the sensor, so it is constantly on then even after you turn your truck off? It have to be because its not wired into an ignition source right?

 

TK- I don't think you installed your wideband. In fact I know you didn't and your own words prove it. How does the sensor know when to shut down if it is not tied into the ignition?

AF is related to KR like farting is related to bean burritos. You can't use farts to tell if it was a good bean burrito. Bad gas can cause knock, all while maintaining a proper AF. Low octane can cause knock, heat can cause knock, lugging can cause knock. NO ONE tunes their engine based solely on knock.

You just simply don't know what you're talking about.

 

obviously rubber frog..you proved the obvious buddy. you argued my same point. theyre related. congrats. except youre wrong because you adjust knock if you have a bad air fuel. along with spark. people tune their engines based on a lean air fuel. thus altering knock.

and my wideband is not wired to a toggle or anything so it is always on. but yes one wiring harness goes to the battery and one goes to the sensor. and yes i did install it you big bad rubber frog.

this is coming from a guy who spends 400 bones on an intake. ok

 

why do you guys have WB gauges?