Good Or Bad Idea to Cut out the Stock Y Pipe ?
Was told it was a bad to cut out the stock Y pipe. And that i would be getting the check engine light and lose some top end.
Is this true or his a dbag
going to get a dual in and dual out magnaflow muffler going to run it dual from the cats in to the muffler
so is this good or bad idea ?
Is this true or his a dbag
going to get a dual in and dual out magnaflow muffler going to run it dual from the cats in to the muffler
so is this good or bad idea ?
if you are going true duals you will need an X or H pipe to balance your system out. the stock Y is very cheesy and restrictive, i cut mine out and had an exhaust shop fab me up a new less restrictive one. worked out nicely.
will his a dbag then also wanted to charge 450 to run it how i wanted and just dump it i was like
called some other shop told them how i wanted it theyll do it for 150
but the muffler has a x inside or should i still get the h put in ?
this is the muffler im going to be getting http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=8278
but the muffler has a x inside or should i still get the h put in ?
this is the muffler im going to be getting http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=8278
I'd find another D-bag! Cutting out any "Y" pipe would not cause a CEL. And getting rid of ANY restriction would INCREASE mid and top end performance. The ONLY loss could conceivable be in low end torque as this move would reduce back-pressure.
So not only is he wrong, he's dead f*ckin' opposite wrong...
I agree with John, I'm from the camp that says there should be a balancing of exhaust gases somewhere in the system. Many run "true duals" with no reported problems, but I was tought that you needed it. Been doing it that way since I was 16 and I'm gonna be 43 in a couple weeks. No problems, ever.
I've used better flowing, shorter "Y"s and "H"s myself, as well as simply joining them inside of a 2I/2O muffler. Only thing I've never installed myself is an "X". I think you'll be just fine if you only use the muffler to blend the exhaust gases...
So not only is he wrong, he's dead f*ckin' opposite wrong...
I agree with John, I'm from the camp that says there should be a balancing of exhaust gases somewhere in the system. Many run "true duals" with no reported problems, but I was tought that you needed it. Been doing it that way since I was 16 and I'm gonna be 43 in a couple weeks. No problems, ever.
I've used better flowing, shorter "Y"s and "H"s myself, as well as simply joining them inside of a 2I/2O muffler. Only thing I've never installed myself is an "X". I think you'll be just fine if you only use the muffler to blend the exhaust gases...
Last edited by HammerZ71; Jan 10, 2010 at 02:05 PM.
What Hammer said. I am an H-pipe kinda guy myself, but using the X muffler will pretty much do the same thing in your case since the left side will be longer than the right anyway, it will help balance out the system.
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Tell the one shop he's a moron and go somewhere else. The stock Y is VERY restrictive (look at frogs pics). Either replace it with something better (magnaflow makes a nice replacement) or go duals with an X or H pipe.
Why in the hell is every one on this x pipe or h pipe kick?
Thier is no room on a 4wd hemi to do this, I have never seen a h pipe or x pipe on a 4wd hemi, and you never will.
on a car with no transfer case, or flue tank in the way, yes H pipe or x pipe is the way to go.
the only time you get a check engine light will be if you remove the 02 sensors, OBD2 emissons, removing the y pipe is not going to do this, but, depending on where the 02 sensor is in the y pipe, it may need to be removed and re tapped.
I run true duals, no y pipe, no x pipe, no H pipe and no check engine lights, no loss of back pressure, more torque, more power, and more mpg.
If your not going to tow, if you have a daily driver, don't play with the stock ex sytem, leave it alone, it will take time to get back your investment in mpg saving's and thiers a crap load of wrong muflers and bad mufler shops out thier.
My current muflers are holding up, but I blown out mnagna flows, dynomax x ultra flow muflers, DO NOT use one mufler with two inlets, two outlets, run two muflers.
on the stock hemi, the y pipe, un equal length of the left and right ex manifolds are designed to be 100% inperfect for ex flow.
It will educate you to look under your truck and come to your own conclussions abought what to do and not what to do.
Thier is no room on a 4wd hemi to do this, I have never seen a h pipe or x pipe on a 4wd hemi, and you never will.
on a car with no transfer case, or flue tank in the way, yes H pipe or x pipe is the way to go.
the only time you get a check engine light will be if you remove the 02 sensors, OBD2 emissons, removing the y pipe is not going to do this, but, depending on where the 02 sensor is in the y pipe, it may need to be removed and re tapped.
I run true duals, no y pipe, no x pipe, no H pipe and no check engine lights, no loss of back pressure, more torque, more power, and more mpg.
If your not going to tow, if you have a daily driver, don't play with the stock ex sytem, leave it alone, it will take time to get back your investment in mpg saving's and thiers a crap load of wrong muflers and bad mufler shops out thier.
My current muflers are holding up, but I blown out mnagna flows, dynomax x ultra flow muflers, DO NOT use one mufler with two inlets, two outlets, run two muflers.
on the stock hemi, the y pipe, un equal length of the left and right ex manifolds are designed to be 100% inperfect for ex flow.
It will educate you to look under your truck and come to your own conclussions abought what to do and not what to do.








