i wouldnt mind a 5.9 in a ford.... that would be a nice setup.... the 6.7 cummins was known to be the death of cummins, but as of late, it hasnt really been all that bad. they now have EGR and DPF deletes that bring the 6.7 to not be such a bad cummins. i still chose to stick with the 5.9...i wanted the newest truck possible with the 5.9 which was the early 07's....07.5 went to the 6.7. my neighbor got a 2010 HD cummins on friday, and man is that a pretty truck!

 

Oh 6.7.. my bad. I would love to put a cummins in a ford, I like the superduty look more, way beefier!! If I ever bought a newer truck I would deffinitely get rid of the dpf first, up here the emissions testing isnt to bad. Its only done in the lower mainland around vancouver but we just bump our gvw on our regi to 5001 and we are exempt from it. I would still like the 5.9 though thats why I was saying earlier Id trade in for an 07. The 4th gens so far havent grown on me quite yet.. Its getting there, I hated it at first but you see them in every diesel magazine in the past few months and slowly Im starting to like them.

 

Ah, I want one, but I can't justify it at the moment. A 1500 more than sates my needs specially since I have access to a 2004 6.0 and a 1994 460 both F-350 duals.

Now, onto the arguments in this thread:

1. I never understood the blowing smoke in peoples faces. It's kinda like watching someone getting pissed off, flipping you the bird and then cutting you off. There is no point to it, and it accomplishes nothing. You would be better off to just smile and wave. In my experience, it usually makes people more frustrated than if you had shown your a$$. Not to mention, for those of you that like to boast about MPGs, that black smoke has a meaning, and when you do launch a cloud of it, that's raw fuel and nothing else. (The last dieseltard that did that stunt to me got the chit beat out of him for doing that to my freshly washed truck. The idgit pulled up next to me and laid down on the fuel and left a line of soot down the side of my truck.)

2. The sound of the 5.9 cummins could be agreeably annoying specially when you hear one that some tard has put an open 5" exhaust on. Every diesel I've ever heard had a unique sound, but none of them were enough for me to be annoyed by them. The new ones are so quiet anyways that it should be a moot point.

3. While the 6.7's have gotten a bad wrap, they aren't as bad as most "diesel guys" would want you to think. In stock form, they really don't have major issues. Sure, they have minor annoyances, specially when the owner treats the truck like a baby and never drives it hard enough to make the computer and motor go through regen. When it comes to mods, if done correctly, you'll have one hell of a truck.

Lets not forget that if you would sit down and put pen, paper, and maybe a calculator in front of you and crunched out all the numbers, you'll see that in the long run, a diesel isn't more cost effective to own over a gasser. Consider the following elements: higher fuel costs, initial cost, general maintenance costs, repair cost (even if you're just paying for parts and installing yourself), registration, property taxes, and the big one- insurance. Even if you just plan to carry liability, I've seen the costs run between 50-100% higher compared to a gas burner.

In short, if you can either afford the costs or plan to tow and haul loads that weigh more than a gasser can handle, then they are great, but never step into one expecting them to pay for themselves.

 

well i guess im that "idgit" (not even sure what the f*ck that is.....) because my truck DUMPS soot lol. and anyone that knows enough to make theyre truck do, knows that its raw fuel! so thanks for that info. i also have a striagh piped 5.9 that is exactly 5 inches i diameter lol! and actually 6.7's are less reliable stock than they are modded...

 

Tis true, the city where I used to be the tech consultant for bought two '08 CTDs with the 6.7 after having great luck with their 2nd Gen 5.9 CTDs.
Both trucks have been nightmares and have been at the dealership far more than working for the city. The city mgr. will not allow a vehicle to be used if it has a CEL and they are constantly popping them, almost exclusively for emissions crap.

IMO NOBODY is making a diesel engine for a light truck worth a flip. The 6.7 sucks, the current Furd motor is so bad that Furd is redesigning a new diesel basically from the ground up. The Duramax seems to be the least problematic, but like the Furd is horribly de-tuned from the factory to make it so...

If you can find a cherry 7.3 Furd or a 5.9 CTD jump on it, otherwise, leave 'em alone till they all get their chit together. Damn govt. and their emissions crap! Who needs an ozone layer???

 

I'd love to have one, but I dont tow nearly enough. When I do tow, its not enough weight to justify buying a diesel. Also price of diesel going way up didnt help. Maybe some day I'll own one, I hope.

 

That's another plus of the older ones, off-road diesel fuel. Technically it's illegal to put it in your truck, but hell, in south Ga, everybody does as most gas stations have at least one pump because of all the farms and tractors. We use it in the Kubota at the farm and it's close to half the price of the low sulfer sh*t.
I've heard you run it in the newer diesel engines with all the emission crap and they are history...

 

The reason I didn't get the Cummins is where I live. It gets damn cold up here and I want a truck that starts without being plugged in all night. The there is the cold fuel gelling up to contend with. With the loads I tow and haul a deisel would makes sense, at least from March to November. Then again, why get a truck with a 350,000 mile motor when the rest of the truck will be rotted away from road salt by then anyhow?

 

I wouldn't take one if the option was free! They are Loud, smelly and a PIA to work on. They are always having issue's and are expensive the repair.
Most guys that do have diesals aren't warranted because they simply use them as DD's and don't even need a diesel.
Unless you use your truck for 90% of the time for hauling heavy cargo like a huge camper or for the farm, i see no reason at all for a diesel other than to say you got one.

 

Although I agree with most of your points, I can think of another reason. When I was fishing tournaments almost every weekend, although the bass boat and all my gear was well under 3000 lbs. and could be towed by even a small 4 cyl. pickup, I was racking up near 30,000 miles a year.
Besides heavy towing, I think a diesel starts to pay large dividends when you are racking up highway miles like that. You go three or four years at that pace, you need to start thinking of trading in a gasser at a huge loss. A diesel is just broken in.

But I agree with you 'dog, 90% of diesel owners have one as an extension of a certain body part...