here are the monitored PIDs for Innovate

Appendix B: Supported PIDs

Name – Description Units Min. Max

"RPM - Engine RPM", "RPM", 0.0, 10230.0,
"TP - Throttle Position(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"LOAD_PCT - Engine Load(calc)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"SPARKADV - Timing Advance(cyl1)", "degBTDC", -64.0, 63.5,
"MAF - Mass Air Flow", "g/s", 0.0, 655.35,
"MAP - Manifold Abs. Presure", "kPa", 0.0, 255.0,
"VSS - Vehicle Speed Sensor", "km/h", 0.0, 255.0,
"ECT - Engine Coolant Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"IAT - Intake Air Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"PTO_STAT - PTO Status", "PTO", 0.0, 1.0,
"FUEL1_OL - Fuel Sys1 Open Loop", "OL", 0.0, 1.0,
"FUEL2_OL - Fuel Sys2 Open Loop", "OL", 0.0, 1.0,
"SHRTFT1 - Short Term Fuel Trim 1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT1 - Long Term Fuel Trim 1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT2 - Short Term Fuel Trim 2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT2 - Long Term Fuel Trim 2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT3 - Short Term Fuel Trim 3", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT3 - Long Term Fuel Trim 3", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"SHRTFT4 - Short Term Fuel Trim 4", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"LONGFT4 - Long Term Fuel Trim 4", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"FRP - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 765.0,
"FRP_MED - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 5177.27,
"FRP_HIGH - Fuel Rail Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 655350.0,
"EQ_RAT - Commanded Equiv. Ratio", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"LOAD_ABS - Absolute Load Value", "%", 0.0, 802.75,
"EGR_PCT - Commanded EGR", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EGR_ERR - EGR Error", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"TP_R - Throttle Position(rel)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TP_B - Throttle Position B(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TP_C - Throttle Position C(abs)", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_D - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_E - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"APP_F - Acc. Pedal Position D", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"TAC_PCT - Commanded Throttle", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EVAP_PCT - Commanded Evap. Purge", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"EVAP_VP - Evap. Vapor Pressure", "Pa", -8192.0, 8191.0,
"AIR_UPS - Secondary Air DNS", "UPS", 0.0, 1.0,
"AIR_DNS - Secondary Air DNS", "DNS", 0.0, 1.0,
"AIR_OFF - Secondary Air DNS", "OFF", 0.0, 1.0,
"FLI - Fuel Level Indicator", "%", 0.0, 100.0,
"BARO - Barometric Pressure", "kPa", 0.0, 255.0,
"AAT - Ambient Air Temp", "degC", -40.0, 215.0,
"VPWR - Control Module Voltage", "Volts", 0.0, 65.535,
"MIL - Malfunction Indicator Lamp", "MIL", 0.0, 1.0,
"DTC_CNT - DTC Count", "DTCs", 0.0, 1023.0,
"MIL_DIST - Distance MIL active", "km", 0.0, 65535.0,
"MIL_TIME - Hours MIL active", "hours", 0.0, 1023.0,
"CLR_DIST - Distance MIL clear", "km", 0.0, 65535.0,
"WARM_UPS - Warm Ups MIL clear", "WUs", 0.0, 1023.0,
"RUNTM - Run Time", "mins", 0.0, 1023.0,
"O2S11 - O2 Sensor(NB) 1-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT11 - O2 Fuel Trim 1-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S12 - O2 Sensor(NB) 1-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT12 - O2 Fuel Trim 1-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S21 - O2 Sensor(NB) 2-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT21 - O2 Fuel Trim 2-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S22 - O2 Sensor(NB) 2-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT22 - O2 Fuel Trim 2-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S31 - O2 Sensor(NB) 3-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT31 - O2 Fuel Trim 3-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S32 - O2 Sensor(NB) 3-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT32 - O2 Fuel Trim 3-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S41 - O2 Sensor(NB) 4-1", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT41 - O2 Fuel Trim 4-1", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"O2S42 - O2 Sensor(NB) 4-2", "Volts", 0.0, 1.275,
"SHRTFT42 - O2 Fuel Trim 4-2", "%", -100.0, 99.22,
"EQ_RAT11 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 1-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S11 - WideO2 Voltage 1-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT12 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 1-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S12 - WideO2 Voltage 1-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT21 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 2-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S21 - WideO2 Voltage 2-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
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"EQ_RAT22 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 2-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S22 - WideO2 Voltage 2-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT31 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 3-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S31 - WideO2 Voltage 3-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT32 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 3-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S32 - WideO2 Voltage 3-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT41 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 4-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S41 - WideO2 Voltage 4-1", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"EQ_RAT42 - WideO2 Equiv-Ratio 4-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WO2S42 - WideO2 Voltage 4-2", "Volts", 0.0, 7.999,
"WBEQ_RAT11 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 1-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S11 - WB-O2 Voltage 1-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT12 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 1-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S12 - WB-O2 Voltage 1-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT21 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 2-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S21 - WB-O2 Voltage 2-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT22 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 2-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S22 - WB-O2 Voltage 2-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT31 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 3-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S31 - WB-O2 Voltage 3-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT32 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 3-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S32 - WB-O2 Voltage 3-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT41 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 4-1", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S41 - WB-O2 Voltage 4-1", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"WBEQ_RAT42 - WB-O2 Equiv-Ratio 4-2", "lambda", 0.0, 1.999,
"WBO2S42 - WB-O2 Voltage 4-2", "mA", -128.0, 127.996,
"CATEMP11 - Catalyst Temp 1-1", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP21 - Catalyst Temp 2-1", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP12 - Catalyst Temp 1-2", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,
"CATEMP22 - Catalyst Temp 2-2", "degC", -40.0, 6513.5,

 

I dont see the problem there... Have you tried to keep up with it cycling between 8 parameters while driving at WOT? I can tell you first hand it doesn't work out to well and the screens move to fast to get any good information off of them, to try and keep track of both reding 16 total... good luck.

Personally I'd love to have another one, that way I dont have to cycle through everything and can keep the basic 4 I always run on screen all at once.

Also just to add, since you can add a second gauge to your setup at any time it means that there is just a plug in the back. So YES you can remove it and sell it by disconnecting it only downside would be the person buying it would have to also buy a new OBDII port adapter to go from the OBDII port to the gauge.

 

here are the PIDs for SR series Areoforce Interceptor gauges

Chrysler (non-CAN) Vehicles – SR series gauges:
Platforms:
Platform 1: Neon SRT4, Neon, PT Cruiser
Platform 2: Ram, Durango, Dakota, 300m, Intrepid, Stratus, Sebring, Concord, LHS,
Liberty

1. INTAKE AIR- Intake Air Temperature taken at the throttle body inlet
2. AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE – air temperature at the air filter
3. COOLANT TEMP- Engine Coolant Temperature
4. RPM- engine Revolutions Per Minute
5. CALCULATED AIR FLOW RATE- Mass Air Flow (lbs/min) calculated by the
PCM
6. BAROMETRIC PRESSURE – ambient (outside) air pressure
7. MANIFOLD PSI- Manifold Air Pressure (boost-psi)
8. THROTTLE POS PCT- Throttle Position percentage (0-100%)
9. THROTTLE VOLTS- Throttle Position sensor output (0-5 volts)
10. MILES PER HOUR- Miles Per Hour
11. KNOCK RETARD- Total Knock Retard (degrees)
12. ST KNOCK RETARD – Short term knock retard
13. LT KNOCK RETARD – Long term knock retard
14. FUEL KNOCK RETARD – ST + LT knock retard
15. KNOCK SENSOR RAW VOLTAGE – voltage output of knock sensor
16. WASTEGATE SOLENOID % DUTY CYCLE – programmed wastegate
Duty cycle, 0-100%
17. SHORT TRIM FUEL TRIM- short term fuel trim
18. LONG TRIM FUEL TRIM – long term fuel trim
19. OXYGEN SENSOR - O2 bank 1 sensor in millivolts
20. FUEL LEVEL – amount of fuel in the tank in gallons.
21. EXHAUST GAS TEMP – calculated/determined by the PCM
22. TRANS TEMP- Transmission Temperature (auto transmission only)
23. RUN TIME MINS- engine run time since last engine start. Can be used as a trip timer.
24. BATTERY VOLTAGE- Alternator/battery output voltage
25. BATTERY TEMP - Battery Temperature
26. PULSE WIDTH- injector pulse width
27. FUEL TEMPERATURE
28. BASE SPARK TIMING – timing level commanded by the PCM before adjustments due to
temperature, knock, etc.
29. SPARK ADJUST – adjustments made to base spark timing
30. IGNITION ADVANCE- final ignition timing advance after adjustments
31. ENGINE LOAD-calculated Engine Load (0-100%)
32. Miles Per Gallon- instantaneous fuel economy
33. Calculated net horsepower
34. TOTAL MISFIRES- Total misfires of all cylinders.
35. P Ratio – Pressure Ratio MAP/BAROMETER
36. Analog 1 – analog input #1.
37. Analog 2 – analog input #2

All second gauges of a dual set will only support highlighted in red parameters due to limitations of
the OBD2 bus. Single gauges and primary gauges of dual sets will support all the above parameters.

 

And here are the PIDs the CNC AI gauges monitor

Chrysler (CAN) Vehicles – CNC series gauges:
Platforms:
Platform 1: 2004-2006 Durango, 2005-2006 Dakota, 2005-2006.5
300/Charger/Magnum, 2006 PT Cruiser, 2006 Ram (gasoline), 2005/2006 Grand
Cherokee, 2006 Liberty, 2006 Commander, 2006 Avenger, 2006 Nitro,
Platform 2: 2007+ Durango, 2007+ Dakota, 2006.5+ 300/Charger/Magnum, 2007+ PT
Cruiser, 2007+ Ram (gas), 2007+ Grand Cherokee, 2007+ Liberty, 2007+ Commander,
2007+ Avenger, 2007+ Nitro.
Platform 3: 2006+ Caliber, 2006+ Patriot, 2006+ Compass
1. INTAKE AIR- Intake Air Temperature taken at the throttle body inlet
2. AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE – air temperature at the air filter
3. COOLANT TEMP- Engine Coolant Temperature
4. RPM- engine Revolutions Per Minute
5. CALCULATED AIR FLOW RATE- Mass Air Flow (lbs/min) calculated by the
PCM
6. BAROMETRIC PRESSURE – ambient (outside) air pressure
7. BOOST - Manifold Absolute air Pressure in psi (reads like a boost/vacuum gauge)
8. MAP kPa – Manifold absolute pressure in kPa.
9. THROTTLE POS PCT- Throttle Position percentage (0-100%)
10. THRTL BLDE - Throttle blade position
11. TPS V 1 – Throttle position sensor voltage 1
12. TPS V 2 - Throttle position sensor voltage 2
13. MILES PER HOUR- Miles Per Hour
14. KNOCK RET 1 - Short Term (current) Knock Retard (degrees) using the 2005 Chrysler conversion
15. KNOCK RET 2 - Short Term (current) Knock Retard (degrees) using the 2006 Chrysler conversion
16. LT KNOCK RETARD – Long Term knock retard ignition advance reduction
17. KNOCK SENSOR RAW VOLTAGE 1 – voltage output of knock sensor 1
18. KNOCK SENSOR RAW VOLTAGE 1 Avg. – voltage output of knock sensor 1 averaged over time
19. KNOCK SENSOR RAW VOLTAGE 2 – voltage output of knock sensor 2
20. KNOCK SENSOR RAW VOLTAGE 2 Avg. – voltage output of knock sensor 2 averaged over time
21. WASTEGATE SOLENOID % DUTY CYCLE – programmed wastegate
Duty cycle, 0-100%
22. SHORT TRIM FUEL TRIM- short term fuel trim
23. LONG TRIM FUEL TRIM – long term fuel trim
24. CRNT CELL – Currently fuel trim look-up table cell
25. OXYGEN SENSOR - O2 bank 1 sensor in millivolts
26. FUEL LEVEL % – amount of fuel in the tank in percent.
27. FUEL CAP – Fuel tank capacity in gallons.
28. CAT CON TEMP - Catalytic converter exhaust temp bank 1 and 2 – calculated by the PCM
29. LINE PRS – Transmission line pressure
30. TR OIL TEMP 1- Transmission Temperature (auto transmission only)
31. TR OIL TEMP 2 -
32. TCC SLIP – Torque converter slip
33. CURRENT GEAR 1 – current transmission gear
34. CURRENT GEAR 2 – current transmission gear
35. SHIFT TIME – Time taken to execute last shift
36. LFW/LRW SPEED – non-driven wheel speed (left front or left rear)
37. STEERING ANGLE – Angle in degrees or steering wheel/shaft
38. YAW – output of yaw sensor of ESP system in degrees. Yaw is body roll.
39. BRAKE PSI – Brake boost pressure in psi.
40. LATERAL G – Lateral acceleration as measured by ESP system accelerometer
41. BOOSTER TRV – Brake booster travel
42. BOOSTER VEL – Brake booster actuator veleocity. Measurement of speed at which braking is
applied. The faster the brake is pushed, the higher this value. This parameter along with BRAKE PSI will
give detailed info on how you are applying the brakes.
43. TCC STATE – Indicates the status of the torque converter clutch (unlocked/locked).
44. TCC SLIP – Torque converter slip speed.
45. GEAR ACTUAL – current transmission gear
46. TRANS TEMP – transmission temp
47. TORQUE – calculated torque delivered to the transmssion
48. RUN TIME MINS- engine run time since last engine start. Can be used as a trip timer.
49. BATTERY VOLTAGE- Alternator/battery output voltage
50. BATT TEMP – battery temperature
51. INJ PW- injector pulse width in msec.
52. INJ DC – injector duty cycle
53. FUEL STATUS – Fueling status, open or closed loop
54. CMD A/F – PCM commanded air/fuel ratio
55. BASE SPARK TIMING – timing level commanded by the PCM before adjustments due to
temperature, knock, etc.
57. IGNITION ADVANCE- final ignition timing advance after adjustments
58. ENGINE LOAD-calculated Engine Load (0-100%)
60. MPG - Miles Per Gallon- instantaneous fuel economy
61. HP - Calculated net horsepower
62. MISFIRES- Total misfires of all cylinders.
63. P Ratio – Pressure ratio MAP/BAROMETER
64. TRANS TEMP V6/R08: For V6 vehicles only and the 2007/8 V8 Ram
65. TRANS SLIP V6/R08: Transmission Torque converter slip for V6 and 2007/8 V8 Ram.
64. Analog 1 – analog input #1.
65. Analog 2 – analog input #2

 

Sorry for the thread jacking though. I just thought this may be a good place for this info since it kinda got on a comparison type topic and since the dual set couldnt be separated.

However, I think dual AIs are cool for sure.

 

weed thats a ton of info... whats the point though? lol. were you just showing what all they support as a "gee-whiz"? or was that trying to answer a question? again, though good info

 

Explain to me further how the AI doesnt datalog, because it says straight on the website it does.

 

straight from the AI site in the accessories for the Dual Cable:

"

Dual Cable:
One OBD2 connection splits into two gauge connectors allowing two single gauges to be used as a dual. Single FD and single SR gauges are not meant to be run as duals however.

$25

so what does this mean...

 

video camera for datalog

record the gauge and your rpm

 

I couldnt find it or have ever seen it so I didnt think it could without using the analog inputs/outputs with additional equipment. Are you sure?

Not trying to make this a pissing match so please dont take it that way. i was just putting out the over-all cost of the two and pros v/s cons

Like I said, the AI for 340 and no datalogging but can display all the info or Innovate combo for 330 and can datalog everything but only display AFR.

If you can tell me how to do the datalogging with the AI that would be great because I dont know how. Maybe Teach and Frog can help as they have one also.