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5Speed auto, tow haul, lock 3rd gear?

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Old 03-30-2012, 06:07 PM
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Default 5Speed auto, tow haul, lock 3rd gear?

Hello, my first post...
I have a 04 Hemi 2500 QC 4X4 with the 3.73 rear. I see all the posts about the rear end gear swaps, however I wanted to see if anyone knows how to lockout 4th and 5th with the tow haul button? Mine only locks out 5th, and when I pull a 4000 lb boat between 65 and 70, the tranny hunts between 3rd and 4th with any head wind or any incline. I would like to do the gear swap, just not the $ in the play account right now. If I could keep the tranny in 3rd, that would solve my problem, don't want to burn the tranny up. Thanks!
 
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No O/D lockout?
 
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I always thought it locked out 4 and 5 since its a double overdrive trans.
 
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Tow/haul might be different. I'd hope there are two choices.
 
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It only locks out 5th gear. The tow/haul is supposed to use the trans temp to reduce trans temp when it get above a certain threshold. Some tuners can adjust the transmission shift points but I don't know if that is possible on a 2004 truck. I think dodge could benefit from a true 6 speed transmission. I know they have one but it more a tweaked 5-speed. It does separate the 5th and 6th gears a little more.
 
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:27 AM
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O/D off locks out 4th and 5th gears
Tow/Haul locks out only 5th gear and stretches the shifting out a little.

I think 05-prior doesn't have O/D off but only Tow/haul, or am I mistaken?
 
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We get OD off but no tow/haul mode. With the intake I can drive it by ear, knowing just when it's about to downshift and I stop giving it throttle if I don't want it to.
 
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I have an 05QC 4X4 and had an 04QC 4X2 and the tow-haul didn't seem to lock anything out. It did change the shift points and it seemed to keep the torque converter from locking up until there was *******ly no pull on the trans such as a slight down hill or letting off the gas on a flat stretch. I do like it when towing or if I am on a curvy hilly stretch of road as it keeps the trans from shifting as much and doesn't seem to adversely affect the fuel mileage.
 
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I didn't realize it was different year to year. Yes, my 04 only has the 'tow/haul' button option. Looks like I'll have to start saving for a gear swap down the line. From the other posts, 4.56 is the way to go....
Thanks guys...
 
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Gear swap is the way to go...it is on my list of mods, but at the moment I am just trying to keep fuel in the truck. But some advice until the gear swap is I try to speed up 5-10 MPH going downhill so when I hit an up hill I can let of the throttle just enough to keep it from shifting, and by the time at the top of the hill am right back at about the speed I wanted to average...maybe slightly slower, but easy enough to speed it back up slowly without shifting
 



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