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Old 12-06-2013 | 10:38 PM
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TSB is not a recall. There is no reimbursement for a TSB. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Old 12-09-2013 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 66three83
TSB is not a recall. There is no reimbursement for a TSB. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sometimes they do, all depends on the type of fix.

He might be entitled to partial reimbursement if Dodge has a certain Labor Charge for that issue under the TSB... but now he'd have to prove that to the Dealership which may be difficult b/c they will generally not want to hand money out.

Might need to get DodgeCares and/or Corporate Service involved in order to move forward.
 
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Old 12-10-2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtydog
2006 had a TSB for the directional issue. Caused by towing circuit.
Dodge re-programmed all 2006 year trucks to have a higher allowable circuit current so trailers didnt cause TIPM issue's.

Might want to look into that. You may be able to get your money back.
Is this the service bulletin you were referring to?

NUMBER: 08-021-06 REV. A
GROUP: Electrical
DATE: October 13, 2006
THE StarSCAN® FLASH FILES FOR THIS BULLETIN MUST BE RETRIEVED FROM THE INTERNET.

SUBJECT:
TIPM Flash - DTC's Indicating Short Circuits In The Wiring On The Trailer Or No Engine
Crank With DTC P1277 - Starter Control Circuit 2 Low
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves a discussion and reprogramming of the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM).
MODELS:
2006 (DR/DH/D1) Ram Truck
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles built prior to April 03, 2006 (MDH 0403XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Customer may experience any of the following TIPM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's):
B166B - Left Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit Low. Trailer harness left lamp circuit
is shorted to ground.
B166C - Left Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit High. Trailer harness left lamp circuit
is shorted to battery voltage.
B178C - Left Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit Over Current. Trailer harness left lamp circuit is intermittently grounding.
B166F - Right Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit Low. Trailer harness right lamp circuit is shorted to ground.
B1670 - Right Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit High. Trailer harness right lamp circuit is shorted to battery voltage.
B166E - Right Trailer Tow Lamp Control Circuit Over Current. Trailer harness right lamp circuit is intermittently grounding.
B1667 - Back Up Lamp Feed Low. Trailer harness back up circuit is shorted to ground.
B2215 - Front Control Module Internal (TIPM). An internal fault code counter has exceeded its limit of 250 counts and one or more electrical outputs controlled by the TIPM have been disabled.
P1277 - Starter Control Circuit 2 Low (TIPM). The output feed current to the starter solenoid has exceeded the upper current limit of 75 amps. This may result in a no-crank condition.
DISCUSSION:
DTC's B1667, B166B, B166E, B166F, B178C and B2215:
1. These DTC's indicate that a (hard or intermittent) short circuit to GROUND exists in the wiring of one or more of the TRAILER electrical harness circuits.
2. The TIPM retries the output on each ignition cycle or request (brake or turn signal activation) in an attempt to enable the output in case the fault is intermittent.
3. DTC's B1667, B166B, B166E, B166F, and B178C may occur individually or in combination with each other.
4. For the two over current DTC's, B166E and B178C, the fault is set when the TIPM has detected electrical loads on the circuit greater than 15 amps.
5. If DTC B2215 is also present with one of more of the above DTC's, then this fault code indicates that the TIPM has detected the faulted condition (short) on one or more of the trailer circuits more than 250 times. When detected more than 250 times, the TIPM disables the electrical output (turns off) to the respective faulty trailer circuit to protect that circuit and the system.
6. Short circuits can be intermittent and will require diagnosis and repair of the trailer wire harness.
7. Once the faulty circuit has been repaired, the dealer must use a scan tool to enable the respective trailer circuit that was previously been turned off (disabled) due to DTC B2215.
8. The new TIPM software raises the TIPM circuit trigger point from 15 amps. to 20 amps.
DTC's B166C and B1670:
1. These DTC's indicate that a short circuit to BATTERY voltage (12 volts) exists in the wiring of one of the TRAILER electrical harness circuits.
DTC B2215 - Front Control Module (TIPM):
1. This fault code occurs when the TIPM detects a short (to ground or to battery) on one of the trailer circuits more than 250 times.
2. When B2215 is present with one of the above trailer circuit faults the TIPM will turn off (disable) the respective faulty trailer circuit or circuits.
3. This internal fault DOES NOT mean that the TIPM module is defective.
4. The TIPM memory can be cleared, this action will turn on a previously disabled trailer circuit. If possible, the fault in the circuit should be repaired first before clearing the TIPM memory.
5. DO NOT replace the TIPM without first attempting to clear the TIPM memory.
6. The dealer will need a scan tool to clear the TIPM memory.
7. If one or more of the TIPM outputs are disabled due to one of these conditions, normal operation can be restored a maximum of five (5) times.
8. The TIPM will be rendered inoperative on the sixth attempt to clear the TIPM memory.
At this point the TIPM must be replaced. The DTC(s) that indicates the problem and DTC 2215 will both remain ACTIVE. Neither fault code will can be cleared at this point.
DTC P1277 - Starter Control Circuit 2 Low (TIPM):
1. The TIPM monitors the output current to the starter solenoid for over-current conditions.
2. The DTC is set when the output current to starter solenoid exceeds 75 amps.
3. On trucks equipped with a diesel engine, there may be times in cold climates when it is normal for the starter solenoid current to exceed 75 amps.
4. If DTC B2215 is present in addition to DTC P1277, then a starter solenoid circuit over-current condition has been detected by the TIPM module more than 250 times. At this point, the circuit to the starter solenoid is turned off until the TIPM memory is cleared.
5. The new TIPM software raises the TIPM current trigger point for DTC P1277 from 75 amps. to 100 amps.
DIAGNOSIS:
If any of the DTC's listed above are present, perform the Repair Procedure.
NOTE: The Repair Procedure (TIPM flash) currently can not be performed using the StarMOBILE™ in its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN™ to perform the Repair Procedure, or use the StarMOBILE™ in its CONNECTED mode to perform the Repair Procedure.

REPAIR PROCEDURE - USING THE INTERNET TO RETRIEVE THE FLASH FILE:
NOTE: Before performing this Repair Procedure, the operating software in the StarSCAN®; must be programmed with software release level 7.02 SP1 or higher. The software release level is visible in the blue header at the top of the StarSCAN® screen.
NOTE: The StarSCAN® diagnostic scan tool fully supports Internet connectivity.
However, to take advantage of this feature you must first configure the
StarSCAN® for your dealership's network. Make sure the StarSCAN® is
configured to the dealership's network before proceeding. For instruction on
setting up your StarSCAN® for the dealer's network refer to either:
“DealerCONNECT > Service > StarSCAN and StarMOBILE tools > Online
Documentation”, or refer to the StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide.
The StarSCAN® Quick Start Networking Guide is also available on the
www.dcctools.com website under the "Download Center".

NOTE: The Repair Procedure (TIPM flash) currently can not be performed using the StarMOBILE™ in its STANDALONE mode. Use the StarSCAN™ to perform the Repair Procedure, or use the StarMOBILE™ in its CONNECTED mode to perform the Repair Procedure.
NOTE: If this flash process is interrupted/aborted, the flash should be restarted.
1. Open the hood and install a battery charger. Using a voltmeter, verify that the charging rate provides 13.2 - 13.5 volts. Set the battery charger to continuous charge. Do not allow the charger to time out during the flash process. Remove the charger from the battery when the flash process is complete.
NOTE: Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the flash process.
2. Connect the CH9410 StarSCAN® ethernet cable to the StarSCAN® and the dealer's network drop.
3. Connect the CH9404 StarSCAN® vehicle cable to the StarSCAN® and the vehicle.
4. Power ON the StarSCAN®.
5. Select “ECU View”
6. Touch the screen to highlight the TIPMCGW in the list of modules.
7. Select “More Options”
8. Select “ECU Flash”
9. Record the part number at the top of the “Flash TIPMCGW” screen for later reference.
10. Select “Browse for New File”. Follow the on screen instructions.
11. Highlight the appropriate calibration then select “Download to Scantool”.
12. Select “Close” after the download is complete, then select “Back”.
13. Highlight the listed calibration.
14. Select “Update Controller”. Follow on screen instructions.
15. When the update is complete, select “OK”.
16. Verify the part number at the top of the “Flash TIPMCGW” screen has updated to the new part number.
NOTE: Due to the TIPMCGW programming procedure, a DTC may be set in other modules (PCM, TCM, BCM, MIC, SKREEM, etc.) within the vehicle, if so equipped. Some DTC's may cause the MIL to illuminate. From the “Home”
screen select “System View”. Then select “All DTCs”. Press “Clear All Stored
DTCs” if there are any DTCs shown on the list.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
 
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Old 12-10-2013 | 05:21 PM
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What about the 04 Ram 1500 ..
my trailer lights do not work. I got the truck New. and never used it for towing until September of this year. plugged in new trailer and left trailer lights did not work.. truck is the issue,, Not the trailer.

and my truck currently has 43,000 miles. replace both front wheel bearing as well. 500 dollars just in parts.
 
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Old 12-10-2013 | 07:53 PM
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You probably have a broken wire leading to your truck's connector. Check it with a voltmeter.
 



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