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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dodgetruck2
They are not cheap so i would look loosely, part of me wants to say a cam/crank position sensor throwing a bad signal, would be fun to probe one with an oscilloscope. Maybe pull the sensor and see if there is any metal particles on them
I'd agree with this... I graphed your CT, IT & RP & nothing stands out. RPMs would have helped in the data to see the lope & its frequency.

If the cam & crank sensors have not been changed, swap them. They are cheap & they do not last forever. Do not get anything but Cummins parts on these sensors (same sensor, 2 locations). Last time I swapped mine it was an eye opener, my tuning was dialed in for how the motor ran (self tuned) and on the 1st stab of NTK sensors, thru a code right away and the motor did not run 100% like it did with the old sensors. Got Cummins parts and did a comparison of the magnets at the sensor end & the NTKs had a weak magnet compared to the Cummins sensor. Not sure who makes that sensor but back then it was under $30 at the Cummins parts shop.

In the issue I had with the lope... mine was a steady one iirc and stopped at the 5 minute mark in the data log after the motor was running. IIRC I documented this over on CF.
edit: Found the thread and it is the opposite of yours... was rock solid until the 5 min mark & then had a rough idle. If you want to read it search for "Rough idle after 5 minutes" & steve05ram360 & you should find it, again it was the opposite of your symptoms. Rough idle after 5 minutes.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 12:26 PM
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I'll get them ordered tonight so just 2 of the same sensors?

https://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/cummins-crank-cam-position-sensor-03-18-dodge/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%28 ROI%29%20Shopping%3A%20PMax%20-%20Everything%20Else%20%7C%20Low%20AOV&utm_id=1775 4572369&utm_content=&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gad_ca mpaignid=17347656857&gbraid=0AAAAAD-Q2AvkGs59ppE0tAEQ5PU8RORad&gclid=CjwKCAiAs4HMBhBJE iwACrfNZWForFLZ89aYUDgIbTBYSFV4pl7D9AoXgEweAswmttF oXT6mph4M-RoCie0QAvD_BwE#tab-shopperapprovedreviews
 

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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Goshdarnram
I'll get them ordered tonight so just 2 of the same sensors?

https://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/c...pprovedreviews
I don't remember anymore i even did a motor swap a couple years ago on an 06, they may only run one sensor now, on the back of the gear case, crank you will be in the block obviously, but i just don't remember, they are significantly cheaper than i though, I was remembering over 200 for some reason, seems to be Cummins genuine, and price is decent
 
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Old Feb 2, 2026 | 04:02 PM
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From what I read I think it's the same sensor for both
 
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Old Feb 3, 2026 | 10:52 AM
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they are the same sensor for both positions...

the install of the cam sensor is a PITA, be patient...
 
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Old Feb 3, 2026 | 11:16 AM
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So I buy 2 sensors? Just confirming
 
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Old Feb 4, 2026 | 08:01 AM
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yes, you can go to Rockauto.com and confirm... same p/n on all parts for both positions.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2026 | 12:24 AM
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Got the part ordered so I'll update as soon as I install it probably by the end of next week thank you. If it fixes it I'll still post an update fingers crossed!
 
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Old Feb 16, 2026 | 07:49 AM
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Hey got busy this weekend so wasn't able to get it on yet from what I've researched it's behind the computer, but something to note today when I cranked the truck I let it idle for about 10 minutes and went and checked the smarty low voltage at lift pump code well I cut the truck off and cleared code and it idled perfectly so what is y'all's opinion on that?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2026 | 08:02 PM
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do you have a lift pump pressure gauge?
 
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