Toyota is deep into technology. that explains why they have so many hybrids... nurds from japan...

 

This is the first time I've EVER read a forum thread such as this that was totally worthless to me.

I was definitely interested in this forum's thoughts on the new Tundra compared to the Rams but I've hardly seen any worthwhile thoughs, and this is going through SEVEN pages.

I went to both Dodge's and Toyota's pages, looked up both vehicles and compared what I saw. I compared a 2007 4x4 Ram QC 1500 to the 2007 Tundra 4x4 Double Cab. The comparison was a bit difficult, since I could either compare models or compare price ranges, so I settled on models. I also compared their engines specs and also their interior and exterior photos.

Price-wise, the Toyota will run $29,900 MSRP, with the 4.0L or 4.7L as standard, the 5.7L being optional. The Ram is $25,375 MSRP with two choices of the 4.7L engine (Magnum and Flex-fuel) as standard, with the 5.7L as an option. I wasn't about to pretend I was buying both and run a build-to-buy report, but the data is there on each manufacturer's pages to review on your own.

The looks of the Ram still moves me and the new headlights are growing on me. The looks of the Tundra look good from the side, but they're gonna have to redo that front grille...there's something about it that doesn't look integrated, especially that hood-scoop-looking thing.

The specs themselves show that the Tundra's 5.7L is more powerful than the current Ram's 5.7L and is more fuel efficient (by a good bit). The Tundra is also rated to tow quite a bit more. I looked at the raw figures but haven't yet compared where the Ram and Tundra 5.7L engines make their torque and power (if the Tundra is making boadloads of torque but its at 4-5K RPM, that's not necessarily useful for towing).

Interior-wise, I liked the Ram's better, but maybe I'm biased, as I've owned a Ram for a few years.

Keep in mind that I'm trying to be as objective as possible. That isn't really possible when comparing exterior and interior pictures from the trucks' galleries but we work with what data is available, right? This also applies to comparing engine ratings and specs. Specs on paper mean NOTHING, as one truck may have %20+ more horsepower and/or torque but will also weigh 10% more or lay down its power with different ratios...that's extremely hard to determine without having some type of computer model to simulate real-life comparison specs.

Those who are curious, just go to each respective dealer and test drive them back to back...take notes, pretend you're interested, even if you aren't, and make a determination IF you're truly interested in comparing them. Those who are set in their ways or support the "ignorance is bliss" statement will do what they always do.

I'll be watching for some type of truck comparison in magazines/newspaper or TV.

One thing I like about competition is that it pushes innovation...

Lastly, don't forget (for you HP freaks), Toyota does run in NASCAR!

 

haha some of those guys have said that they have "beet" so many hemi rams but none want to back up their talk. I guess since I am a Dodge owner according to them I'm a redneck. Well, I'm not the one with a 7th grade education in English and I live in one of the most non redneck areas in the country. Haha listening to an Ohio guy call me a redneck is like hearing Liberaci make fun of someone for being gay.

 

I've been to the toyota website. According to their build and price function, they are not going to build a standard cab, short bed, 2wd
truck. It seems that the only choices are long bed 2wd, or 4wd shortbed. Note: this applies to 5.7 engines only. I would buy a Toyota Tundra today if it were faster than my truck. Period. Nothing else matters.

 

I tried to bring some intellect into the conversation but I guess it didn't work. This is why threads tend to get closed. The Larry the Cable Guy attitude doesn't help, either. Not everyone who drives a truck is a redneck.

 

Excuse my double-post.

 

Its not "NURD", its "NERD"
Its not "TRADER", its "TRAITOR"

Go rent "Gung-Ho" with Michael Keaton and you'll see why Ford is doing so poor and Toyota quality is coming down since they started making cars here. Talk about recalls. Toyota is not what it was 5-10 years ago. Everyone talks about their quality and resale value, but that is based on history, past history. Their new cars feel cheap. Drive a new camry, its not the same as a 99 camry, interior I mean.

 

i just read in the new truckin the tundra with the 5.7 will have 381 horses at 5,600 rpm and 401 lb-ft at 3600 rpm

 

so youd rather have a fast truck than a truck thats reliable, safe, comfortable to drive and ride in? thats about the most bone headed statement ive read on here in a while...

 

Wow screw toyota i eat tacomas all DAY