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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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I keep hearing cold hard facts from actual job performance countered by nothing more than here-say and personal hate beliefs. Now someone brings Walmart into the picture as being bad and communist. Walmart must have then been founded by Bush right? I mean, come on, Gore founded the internet, right? This again is cold hard fact of the FLIP-FLOPPER. Bash Walmart left and right, then go and shop there. That makes a lot of sense.
True fact. Truman sold the USA out after WWII to the russians, starting the cold war. Go back and read it in the history books.
This is bound to be the longest posting this site has ever seen.
I didn't like Clinton as a president, however, if offered the opportunity, I would have gladly shaken his hand and said "Glad to meet you Mr. President", not throw rocks and bottles. Where do you guys get all this hate from? You have jobs? Do you have houses? Do you feel you fear for your life in the neighborhood you live?? What is so bad about the country we live in right here and now? If your biggest concern is how to put gas in your Ram, then only here in the good ole USA can you either get rid of the Ram, take another job, or change jobs completely. You have choice.
Lucky for all of you haters, Bush can't run again. I suppose his replacementshould be Hillary to fix it all for us? Raise your taxes, give you all free healthcare benefits on Uncle Sam? You think Iraq was expensive?
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Holy ****... that's all I can say. I couldn't even read all of this without having a seizure. Everyone is bickering so much about what one president or another has done or not done. If you think that the man at the head of the table is the boss, you are grossly mistaken. The only way to eraticate this is by not allowing private donations (especially by private industry and organizations) torunners in the election process. That is kind of a "hey, I am giving you a lot of dough, so you owe me one when you are in"... and the more the "donate" the more the "get". And on top of that, there would have to be an entire restructure of the House and Senate to kill all of this porkbarrel spending that is bleeding our country dry. And the chances of this ever happening is slim to never. "A little revolution is a good thing"... you know who said that (probably not in those exact words)... F'in Jefferson... you know, the guy who wrote up the Constitution. That is exactly what is needed, maybe not a Revolution such as the bloodshed in the past, but in a restructuring of how this country works.
But personally, the guy I wished wasn't wisked away was that General working down in New Orleans... amazing you don't hear much about him anymore. He was the only guy in power in a long time to say "WTF this is messed up". And not only point out that something was wrong (we have enough of those people in this world) but he acted. That is the type of person that we need as a president. And the fact that he is a General doesn't hurt him either. It has been a long time since a strong military leader has been our country's leader, and I think that would make a world of differance.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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I keep hearing cold hard facts from actual job performance countered by nothing more than here-say and personal hate beliefs. Now someone brings Walmart into the picture as being bad and communist. Walmart must have then been founded by Bush right? I mean, come on, Gore founded the internet, right? This again is cold hard fact of the FLIP-FLOPPER. Bash Walmart left and right, then go and shop there. That makes a lot of sense.
True fact. Truman sold the USA out after WWII to the russians, starting the cold war. Go back and read it in the history books.
This is bound to be the longest posting this site has ever seen.
I didn't like Clinton as a president, however, if offered the opportunity, I would have gladly shaken his hand and said "Glad to meet you Mr. President", not throw rocks and bottles. Where do you guys get all this hate from? You have jobs? Do you have houses? Do you feel you fear for your life in the neighborhood you live?? What is so bad about the country we live in right here and now? If your biggest concern is how to put gas in your Ram, then only here in the good ole USA can you either get rid of the Ram, take another job, or change jobs completely. You have choice.
Lucky for all of you haters, Bush can't run again. I suppose his replacementshould be Hillary to fix it all for us? Raise your taxes, give you all free healthcare benefits on Uncle Sam? You think Iraq was expensive?
That sure was an awful lot of typing for you to basically say nothing.

First, who said anything about Bush and Wal-Mart having ANY kind of connection? I was talking about our national debt and future prosperity, moron. Who said anything about Wal-Mart being communist? I merely pointed out how we as a country are killing our future financial security, and I cited one example: Wal-Mart. That is the problem with hotheads such as you, Jetpig; you do nothing but bloviate and make yourself look foolish.

Second, where are these cold hard facts from Bush’s’ stellar performance? I can back up everything I say…can you? So, what is your point about Truman? That every President has screwed up? Sure they have, but they are not the current president, and that is who we are talking about.

Third, to question your countries representatives is part of being in a democracy. You act as though it is a bad thing. If you truly feel that way, then I suggest you live elsewhere. There is plenty wrong with our country, and having the attitude of an inept fool like you is only going to make it worse.

Those of you who think you shouldn't criticize the President need to remember this quote:

“The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.â€-

President Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918



Now go to bed and let the grownups talk.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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If you think that the man at the head of the table is the boss, you are grossly mistaken.
No, sir. It is you that is mistaken.

The only way to eraticate this is by not allowing private donations (especially by private industry and organizations) torunners in the election process. That is kind of a "hey, I am giving you a lot of dough, so you owe me one when you are in"... and the more the "donate" the more the "get".
Oh, I see. It is the private industries fault that our leaders don't have any integrity or *****. Gotcha.

We wouldn't want to make the President in any way responsible for a total lack of competence in the people he appoints, or the decisions made in his administration. After all, that's on them. Sure, it may perhaps indicate that his ability to judge a person's abilities isn’t all that great, but who's to say that's his fault? Nobody is good at everything. At least he made the appointment and put someone with a pulse in the slot. Could've been worse, right?

What a bunch of apologist claptrap. It's no wonder that responsibility isn't claimed or borne by our leaders anymore. We don't expect that to happen. It's an incredibly sad state of affairs.

What ever happened to demanding excellence? Some of you people astound me in your happy acceptance of poor performance. If the kid changing your oil forgot to put the plug in the pan before you drove off, I'm pretty sure you'd go after his shop, not just him. But when it comes to leading the country? Oh no. It's a much, much lower set of expectations.

Pathetic. How about some simple concepts of leadership, such as giving the credit and taking the blame?
It's as though the basics have been simply lost on such a large number of people. Kinda sad.

You know, I don't expect my President to be a genius, but I do expect him to be smarter than me...and that is most definitely not the case.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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so... china is gay. fucc them they ahve chinky eyes and we dont! alright! lets party!
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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I am glad to see I have some support here.

The poll numbers say it all, or do they lie to.lol
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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You asked for it. These mean something to me, of course you won't agree and counter every single one of them. I could come up with the same thing for Clinton as well.That's what makes it a democracy!! Just because you don't agree doesn't mean the man needs to be impeached, kicked out, etc. Lying? Scandals? Name a presidency that didn't have that! This one has nothing that can be proven, yet.(ok, I'll give you Carter, but he did nothing either pos or neg) Hell, even FDR had a mistress, very well known. Kennedy hid his illness from the country when it could have affected judgement calls. I voted for Bush because he was the lessor of two evils. I don't follow any party, I don't let others do my decision making. I think for myself and make the choice for the best person at the time andat the time he was the best choice for me.

And no, I don't think I know more then civilians just because I'm military. I didn't say join anything, I said go there and see for yourself. People will believe anything and everything the press reports. Make no mistake, media is driven by profits and you don't make a profit by coming on the air and saying"It's all good, see you tomorrow!"

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Did you come up with that all by yourself? Oh wait, here is a site from 2006,
http://www.nicedoggie.net/2006/?p=1492#comment-51542

So you are basically repeating something you read from someone else. Kinda like someone repeating something from CNN. Or maybe that fake news agency, whats it called? Oh yeah FOX news. Jon Stewart is more reputable than FOX. By the way, Senior Aides of Bush quit ahead of time. I wonder why, I wonder why Powell quit? Like it was said before, during war time a country profits and economics seem to be good.
You dont hear anything about Taiwan anymore and that whole fear of a war with China. You know probably a high percentage of things are made in China, so anyone that tells me that they own everything American is a liar. Too much money is invested in China to wage war against them. Besides we owe them money too. Yes, China lends us money, because they own a large amount of our currency. So, lets pick on the little guys. Also, if we wanted to free a country from a dictator, wouldnt have been cheaper to invade Cuba? or Venezuela? Why go across the world to free people that really dont want us there? "IF HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF", then you know what, let people decide what they want. This country wanted freedom from England, so we fought, we died for our future and that of our kids. We declared independence because thats what we wanted. If we did not wanted it, we would still be a colony. Oh wait maybe we still are HEHE!!
Thats my point, there is more, just dont open my lid.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HE PLAGERIZED THAT, DIDNT THINK ON HIS OWN. TYPICAL BUSH SUPPORTER, NO UNIQUE THOUGHTS, JUST A LEMMING FOLLOWER
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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You guys need to pop a lude, although it is good entertainment watching you guys go back and forth, "My daddy makes more than your daddy..." "Does not." "Does too." Etc... You guys argue like a bunch of kids but like I said it is entertaining. Almost like one of those reality shows.
 
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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I think what FFMedic is getting at is the fact that corruption is widespread throughout the gov't. Yes, Bush is responsible for every act he has done. But I also fail to believe that he has the ability and intelligence to orchestrate all of what has gone down. I would think that there would have to be some people pulling strings behind the curtain (most likely connected to oil industry). And I refuse to believe that it is too much of a coincidence that we invaded a country that was oil rich and refused some companies (Halliburton) from placing pipelines. I also find it funny that we supported the now evil Taliban and Saddam when our focus was on the cold war. This post is good, it lets both sides express their point of view, however I don't think anybody will change their stances (pro/anti Bush); every one who has posted is obviously firmly set in what they believe to be truth ( I am the same way).
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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You guys need to pop a lude, although it is good entertainment watching you guys go back and forth, "My daddy makes more than your daddy..." "Does not." "Does too." Etc... You guys argue like a bunch of kids but like I said it is entertaining. Almost like one of those reality shows.
What is entertaing is when someone posts a picture of himself trying to look like a pirate and calling himself pirata..lol
 
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