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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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If you think that the man at the head of the table is the boss, you are grossly mistaken.
No, sir. It is you that is mistaken.

The only way to eraticate this is by not allowing private donations (especially by private industry and organizations) torunners in the election process. That is kind of a "hey, I am giving you a lot of dough, so you owe me one when you are in"... and the more the "donate" the more the "get".
Oh, I see. It is the private industries fault that our leaders don't have any integrity or *****. Gotcha.
Mulaka, I don't know you. I don't know what you do for a job. But nevertheless, you need to go back to college and take some American Government classes. They teach you how our government works, and not based on biased opinions of the Democrats and Republicans... you think that Hilary and Obama (however you spellhis name) got all of their millions in the last quarter by blue collared workers? No... industry, private buisness, private orginizations, special interest groups all donate money. You think that they are going to just give all this money and say they don't want anything in return? The IAFF is one of the 10 largest unions in the country, and have political groups working with both the Democrats and Republicans (same thing goes with the Teamsters, the largest union in this country). Why do you think that they donate and work with both? To ensure that whoever does win, we have supported them in hopes of them supporting us. Once you start owing people favors and locking yourself in with one group or anothers ideals, then it is those groups influencing your decsions once you are the boss man. And you think that a politician will burn these big supporters? No, because re-elections are just as, if not more, expensive. And I wasn't trying to give any conspiracy theory when I said that the President isn't the boss... What I am saying is that unless you go into the presidency without having any of these groups interest in the forefront of your mind, instead of the American people as a whole, then you no longer fulfilling the "by the people, for the people" ideal that our country is based on.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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And plagiarism is assumed if you don't cite your source. But this forum isn't a research paper either.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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FFMedic, you are absolutely correct. Our government is a disease that has run out of control. No one party, No one person. Noeasy fix either. Only fix is to vote out all those who are in congress and start over with real people who have to work for a living and know the pride, joy, aches and pains of everyday life.
Mulaka, I don't know you either. I am sorry if you had a rough childhood. Therapy is available for a nominal fee.
Bloodsugar, I don't have any heallthcare benefits currently. Too expensive for me and not provided at all. I have been laid off 2X in the past year, 4X since 911, however things have been getting better everyday. I want the choice to invest my social security money on my own. If Hillary could have her way we would be socialists.
Duso02, I knew you didn'twrite all that but you didtake the time to find it and post it for us all to read and it made the point that was asked.At least it wasn't hypothetical hearsay. I certainly didn't consider it plagarism and it supports a large group opinion, Thanks.
For all, if I didn't make it clear, I posted a poem earlier in this thread from a soldier in Iraq and a post about Barak Obama (sp). I DID NOT WRITE EITHER ONE OF THOSE. Just thought they hit the spot for reading and helped to support my views.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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You guys need to pop a lude, although it is good entertainment watching you guys go back and forth, "My daddy makes more than your daddy..." "Does not." "Does too." Etc... You guys argue like a bunch of kids but like I said it is entertaining. Almost like one of those reality shows.
What is entertaing is when someone posts a picture of himself trying to look like a pirate and calling himself pirata..lol
If you are refering to my profile picture I am in the jungle of Panama looking for treasure left by the Spaniards in the 1600's. I have on a yellow futbol Colombia shirt, a purple bandana to keep the sweat out of my eyes, apair of DCU pants (cut off to the cargo pocket so they are now shorts),a pair of boots, a backpack (with shovel and machette) and a metal detector in my other hand. Nope, not trying to look like a pirate there just find a little treasure.
Pirata, Just busting your *****, bro, no harm.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Eltupac, YOU are the one that rocks
Thanks my Chili Pepper Buddy. But I have to agree with Duso on one thing. Let's try to keep it civilized. Calling names to each other is not what this site is about. Its about bringing Dodge owners together. If we disagree on things, we tell each other. We bring facts and thoughts and feelings, but in the end we are kinda brothers in a way, and as brothers after a big fight we hug and drink beer.
Aside from the sissy stuff I just posted above , I just want to point out, that no one here hates this country. I am incredibly thankful for all the opportunities I have and that I would not have had in my birth country. Like it was mentioned before, I can have a house, a truck, a family. But as I love this country this much, it hurts me to see it being hated by other countries, it hurts me to see that I am hated because of the actions of a few. That is why we question the actions of the few. That is why we blame the people that rule, because they are not doing their job. When someone doesnt do their job, you fire them. Its not about being liberal or conservative, its about knowing exactly what is going on and correcting the problem. If you really believe what FOX news tells you, if you really believe what the government tells you, then you are a complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why there was no bid on the reconstruction of Iraq and it was given to Halliburton, where Cheney used to work, then you are complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why contractors in Iraq make more money than you and the soldiers dying there, then you are complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why the government doesnt want the media to cover the dead soldiers arriving here, then you are complacent person.
I can go on, and I can give you references such as sites, but then I am not doing anything for you, because you are the one that has to want to do this. You are the one that has to want to know the truth. You have to get off your *** and stop watching FOX news and read and listen to other sources and make an informed decision, like I did, like other guys here have done.
I know what you are saying and in some way we are bor,s. Thanks man.
By the way Sir psycho sexy kicks ***
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Eltupac, YOU are the one that rocks
Thanks my Chili Pepper Buddy. But I have to agree with Duso on one thing. Let's try to keep it civilized. Calling names to each other is not what this site is about. Its about bringing Dodge owners together. If we disagree on things, we tell each other. We bring facts and thoughts and feelings, but in the end we are kinda brothers in a way, and as brothers after a big fight we hug and drink beer.
Aside from the sissy stuff I just posted above , I just want to point out, that no one here hates this country. I am incredibly thankful for all the opportunities I have and that I would not have had in my birth country. Like it was mentioned before, I can have a house, a truck, a family. But as I love this country this much, it hurts me to see it being hated by other countries, it hurts me to see that I am hated because of the actions of a few. That is why we question the actions of the few. That is why we blame the people that rule, because they are not doing their job. When someone doesnt do their job, you fire them. Its not about being liberal or conservative, its about knowing exactly what is going on and correcting the problem. If you really believe what FOX news tells you, if you really believe what the government tells you, then you are a complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why there was no bid on the reconstruction of Iraq and it was given to Halliburton, where Cheney used to work, then you are complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why contractors in Iraq make more money than you and the soldiers dying there, then you are complacent person.
If you really dont want to know why the government doesnt want the media to cover the dead soldiers arriving here, then you are complacent person.
I can go on, and I can give you references such as sites, but then I am not doing anything for you, because you are the one that has to want to do this. You are the one that has to want to know the truth. You have to get off your *** and stop watching FOX news and read and listen to other sources and make an informed decision, like I did, like other guys here have done.
I know what you are saying and in some way we are bor,s. Thanks man.
By the way Sir psycho sexy kicks ***
I meant to type bro's...not bores
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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But nevertheless, you need to go back to college and take some American Government classes. They teach you how our government works, and not based on biased opinions of the Democrats and Republicans
I know exactly how our government works, and you are confusing the way the government is supposed to work with how it does work. I never said interest groups and private organizations don’t donate money to campaigns, and I never said that it wasn’t a problem. I plainly stated that our politicians do not have to accept it. It’s called integrity and leadership, and those in power have lost it. To place blame on private organizations and interest groups is just silly. That’s like saying that doing cocaine is the drugs fault because it tastes good. Place the blame where it belongs…on the government officials that continue to allow it to happen.

you think that Hilary and Obama (however you spellhis name) got all of their millions in the last quarter by blue collared workers? No... industry, private buisness, private orginizations, special interest groups all donate money. You think that they are going to just give all this money and say they don't want anything in return? The IAFF is one of the 10 largest unions in the country, and have political groups working with both the Democrats and Republicans (same thing goes with the Teamsters, the largest union in this country). Why do you think that they donate and work with both? To ensure that whoever does win, we have supported them in hopes of them supporting us. Once you start owing people favors and locking yourself in with one group or anothers ideals, then it is those groups influencing your decsions once you are the boss man. And you think that a politician will burn these big supporters? No, because re-elections are just as, if not more, expensive. And I wasn't trying to give any conspiracy theory when I said that the President isn't the boss... What I am saying is that unless you go into the presidency without having any of these groups interest in the forefront of your mind, instead of the American people as a whole, then you no longer fulfilling the "by the people, for the people" ideal that our country is based on.

I could care less about which party is in power. There isn't much to differentiate them, accept for the labels they so eagerly apply to each other. Neither party has an ideology worth subscribing to.

What do I want? Simple. I want leadership that works on issues that will continue to keep America strong and vibrant into the future. I don't want stop gap policies designed to push the hard choices off onto the next administration. I want leaders that do as they say they will, rather than simply pencil-whipping problems while claiming victory. Any jackass can claim victory. I want somebody who's more interested in taking on the next challenge than milking political points.

In concrete terms, what does that mean? It means an energy policy with a stated goal of making the US energy self-sufficient within 20 years. It means doing what is necessary to run a balanced budget--if we're going to wage war; we need to pay for war. Selling our debt to the Chinese will not serve us well in the future, particularly as they're buying it with our own currency. We're siphoning our wealth off, and building an economic competitor in the process. We need to understand that we are at "war", and war requires sacrifices. While we aren't in an official war, we have obligated ourselves financially.

I want a President that isn't afraid to encourage young people to serve their country. I want leadership that makes it clear to people that this is not peacetime, and we all must do a bit extra in able to fulfill the duties and responsibilities that we as a nation have chosen to accept.

I want an administration that doesn't actively pander to their "base." I want leaders--leaders who are more concerned with leading all Americans, rather than leading factions. I want Congressmen that are more concerned with doing the business of their constituents than posturing.

I know, I know. It's way too much to ask for. I don't give a **** which party delivers it--honestly, neither party is capable of any of that. They're too insular, and in each case their focus is on their opposition rather than on leading the American people. ****'em. They're out of touch, out of ideas, and out of office soon, hopefully.

I guess that's up to all of us.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Bloodsugar, I don't have any heallthcare benefits currently. Too expensive for me and not provided at all. I have been laid off 2X in the past year, 4X since 911, however things have been getting better everyday. I want the choice to invest my social security money on my own. If Hillary could have her way we would be socialists.
We dont have to go that extreme, If Hillary could have her way, we would be like Canada and you and your family would have free healthcare benefits. Its called mix economy and it works for Canada, one of the world's wealthiest nations, actually top 10. I did not write it either, I got a quick reference of IMF top ten.

Also, there is a link here to a letter from a soldier in Afghanistan. Amazingly, FOX had it, so I am linking here. I did not write it either. I guess is hearsay from a soldier in the line of duty.
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_frien...267872,00.html
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Mulaka, I don't know you either. I am sorry if you had a rough childhood. Therapy is available for a nominal fee.
Wow. Impressive response. People typically resort to these types of posts when they have nothing worthy left to say. You should have just not responded at all. You run your mouth without any regard for the factuality of what you say, and I will always bust you on that.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Bloodsugar, I don't have any heallthcare benefits currently. Too expensive for me and not provided at all. I have been laid off 2X in the past year, 4X since 911, however things have been getting better everyday. I want the choice to invest my social security money on my own. If Hillary could have her way we would be socialists.
Do you even know what a socialist is? And can you show me proof of where Hillary Clinton has demonstrated that socialism is what she strives for in this country? I highly doubt that you can. Even if you could, what difference does that make? I am quite positive that Hillary Clinton doesn't speak for all Democrats.
 
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