Does anybody have 1/4 mile times on new rams
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By the way, reaction time has absolutely nothing to do with what your vehicle runs. It has everything to do with whether you win or lose a race, but the clock does not start counting until your car leaves the line.
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It will be interesting to see what these 09's run once we get some kind of tuning capabilities. Mine is so obviously detuned out of the hole and at every shift that it is sickening. I have never driven a tundra (or any toyota for that matter), so I can't comment on what kind of tq management that they have to put up with, but it can't be as bad as the Dodges. I have figured out that the esp programming, torque management, or something has to do with how steering wheel is turned. I was doing about 30 around a curve leading to an acceleration lane this afternoon. I punched it and the wheels broke loose and I got sideways. I know that turning offers some rolling resistance, but if I punch it at 30 going straight it doesn't come close.
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It will be interesting to see what these 09's run once we get some kind of tuning capabilities. Mine is so obviously detuned out of the hole and at every shift that it is sickening. I have never driven a tundra (or any toyota for that matter), so I can't comment on what kind of tq management that they have to put up with, but it can't be as bad as the Dodges. I have figured out that the esp programming, torque management, or something has to do with how steering wheel is turned. I was doing about 30 around a curve leading to an acceleration lane this afternoon. I punched it and the wheels broke loose and I got sideways. I know that turning offers some rolling resistance, but if I punch it at 30 going straight it doesn't come close.
you said it! I was saying this same thing in different thread. Mine is so tuned down and its soooo obvious, and yes, in my opinion, Chrysler does this more than the others. I have several cars- Charger SRT8, highly modified 300C, CTS-V. They are all detuned...but the the dodge/Chrysler ones are the worst. The good news is, they get completely awakened byy just a handheld tuner. My Charger went from 13.2 in the quarter to 12.7 (and felt like a COMPLETELY different car with Diablo Predator tune). Rubber in 2nd gear every time.
Diablo told me when I called them that the Trinity will be applicable to the 09 Ram later this year. Should add 20-30 HP/Tq to the wheels...but more importantly--it will give you all of your 390 HP/407 lb. ft. of Torque.
This truck wants to go so hard, and at every shift-it throttles down hard, even if your foot is to the floor. No sense adding exhaust or any perfromance mods (besides maybe intake for better MPG and throttle response) until tuning options are available.
I was working with a local tuner--but they just can't figure out the VVT part yet. It will be nice when it does come though...
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Most STONE STOCK srt-4's do not run in the 13's. I've seen quite a few, and most don't quite make it. I used to have one-it was an '04. Hurricane Ivan totaled it out with an oak tree. That tree also totaled out my '69 chrysler 300 and my (now ex) wife's '99 acura tl. I took it to the track a number of times, and I once got a 13.99 at 99 out of it. The rest of the passes were in the 14's.
It's harder to run a good number in a manual-there are too many ways to **** it up. Bog, spin, miss a gear, etc. I can say with certainty that my srt-4 and my '09 ram were for all practical purposes dead even in the 1/4 mile. They were run at the same track, at about the same time of the year. The average pass for each vehicle was within a tenth or two of each other.
Please note, I'm not using the fact that I only broke into the 13's with a stock srt-4 to prove that it's hard to do...I'm using the fact that I've seen plenty of other people run them and not do it, or only do it after some modifications. Like my truck is now, when I say it was stock, I mean you could have had a team of engineers that designed the car go over it and they wouldn't have found the slightest deviation from stock. A lot of "stock" cars aren't quite.
It's harder to run a good number in a manual-there are too many ways to **** it up. Bog, spin, miss a gear, etc. I can say with certainty that my srt-4 and my '09 ram were for all practical purposes dead even in the 1/4 mile. They were run at the same track, at about the same time of the year. The average pass for each vehicle was within a tenth or two of each other.
Please note, I'm not using the fact that I only broke into the 13's with a stock srt-4 to prove that it's hard to do...I'm using the fact that I've seen plenty of other people run them and not do it, or only do it after some modifications. Like my truck is now, when I say it was stock, I mean you could have had a team of engineers that designed the car go over it and they wouldn't have found the slightest deviation from stock. A lot of "stock" cars aren't quite.
I was on another forum for a while and saw more people breaking 13's then hitting 14's.
My original point though was that rice rockets should not all be considered slow. There are some that are fast. I was not bragging or anything.
Markus, I had people call my crappy Neon a crappy slow Neon to my face. I never cared, I thought it was funny. Some people DO think all Neons are slow and that their trucks/cars/whatever can beat them. I am not saying that about anyone on here either. Even with the loud exhaust and blow off valve, some people just didn't have a clue.
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Btw, the Tundra is built in the US - San Antonio, TX to be exact. So, Toyota does have plants in the US. And since they're not union, they can build them for a lower hourly cost than the Ram.
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And comparing stock trucks, the Tundra is faster.
If we take Edmunds for example, they tested a crew cab SLT with the 3.92 gears and got a 0-60 of 7.6 and a 1/4 of 15.6. That's about in line with other published tests.
Edmunds also tested a double cab 4x4 Tundra and posted a 0-60 of 6.3 and a 1/4 of 14.8.
The Toyota may have less peak hp, but the powerband is more usable. Once there are some tuning options out there it could be anybody's game, but the Tundra offers a TRD supercharger that is also covered by warranty and those Tundras spank previous gen SRT-10s.
I love my Dodge, but I didn't buy it b/c it was faster than a Tundra.
If we take Edmunds for example, they tested a crew cab SLT with the 3.92 gears and got a 0-60 of 7.6 and a 1/4 of 15.6. That's about in line with other published tests.
Edmunds also tested a double cab 4x4 Tundra and posted a 0-60 of 6.3 and a 1/4 of 14.8.
The Toyota may have less peak hp, but the powerband is more usable. Once there are some tuning options out there it could be anybody's game, but the Tundra offers a TRD supercharger that is also covered by warranty and those Tundras spank previous gen SRT-10s.
I love my Dodge, but I didn't buy it b/c it was faster than a Tundra.
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The guy on here that actually has a rcsb tundra says they run 14.0's to 13.9's, but his signature says 14.something higher (can't remember) with several mods listed. Maybe his track is at a high elevation?