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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011HemiSport
I'm perplexed how complaining about the cupholders on my truck automatically translates to me needing to be in a Honda...thats plain ignorant; sorry. I love my Ram and use it for both daily driving/towing weekly.

I think dodge definitely shrunk their cabs though. My '05 qc ram 1500 had exceedingly more space than the 4th gen qc. The 4th gen crew cab offers a great backseat but has a smaller front seat than the 3rd gen qc front seat; thats not picking on dodges, but it is true.
I do believe that dodge has changed the box lengths slightly, and that's what you are seeing. I did notice the same thing with my 07 qc, however somehow I think that they have made the box a few inches longer in the 11s. I don't have any hard proof on that, but its kinda what I noticed now that I have been putting stuff in my 11. I know that the tonneau covers will not interchange on these trucks so it must say something!
I cant really vouch for the crew cabs, but I suspect that they might have done the same thing.

I guess when you look it at it is all personal preference in what you need and what you have to sacrifice to get it. You want comfy people in the backseat, the people at the front have to sacrifice a little. You want more box space, you loose some cab. You win some you loose some I guess...
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibby927
On another note. As far as the F150 goes I hate the design. The body styling is fugly, and the interior looks tacky in my opinion. The 5.4 is a dated powertrain that should be on it's way out. I have a coworker who drives a 2011 with the 5.4. He seems to like it.
That is impossible since the 5.4 is already gone. He either has the 5.0 or the 6.2 motor if its a v8
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Yep. 2010 was the last year for the very long stroked 5.4L. 4.17" stroke!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate769
I do believe that dodge has changed the box lengths slightly, and that's what you are seeing. I did notice the same thing with my 07 qc, however somehow I think that they have made the box a few inches longer in the 11s. I don't have any hard proof on that, but its kinda what I noticed now that I have been putting stuff in my 11. I know that the tonneau covers will not interchange on these trucks so it must say something!
I cant really vouch for the crew cabs, but I suspect that they might have done the same thing.

I guess when you look it at it is all personal preference in what you need and what you have to sacrifice to get it. You want comfy people in the backseat, the people at the front have to sacrifice a little. You want more box space, you loose some cab. You win some you loose some I guess...


yea dodge really screwed up on the 4th gens. unlike the previous 3rd gens, in order to get a real truck bed (6') you had to sacrifice and get the tiny new quad cab. or if you wanted a decent back seat (crew cab) you had to go with the smaller bed which was like 5 1/2'? something like that. i actually took a tape out the night I was checking all the 4th gens out, couldnt believe how they screwed the working man such as myself on a truck with a real bed. I wouldnt be able to carry $h!t with the tiny bed on the 1500 crew cabs. but the back seat on the quads you couldnt even have someone sit in comfortably with someone in the front. so i had to go to the 2500 to get a normal bed with a good back seat, which worked out for the best all around because I tow and haul all the time
 
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibby927
Again buying a vehicle is all about preference. I can see the need for more cupholders for people who use their truck to haul a$$ as well as lumber. Just because trucks were built plane jane to start off with doesn't mean they can't evolve and get better with the times. Perhaps you should live by your opinion and get out of that fancy new 2500 in your avatar and into something older without all the fancy doohickies like power windows, heated mirrors, HID lights, and/or expensive wheels and tires.

On another note, I think it is logical to assume that people who buy Crew Cabs buy them because they intend to haul people in them so I guess one could logically also make the assumption that more cupholders for more people would be appropriate. I don't understand why people on here feel the need to make underhanded and rude remarks towards 2011Hemisport for simply wanting more cupholders. I would say if you don't have something more constructive to say then take your opinion and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

I use my truck to haul things when I move, I use it to pick up groceries, I use it as a daily driver, and I use it on vacation to haul my own stuff and some of my extended family's things. Point is it does exactly what i need it to do, and what I want it to do. I guess I am a big fan of doing what you want with the money you earn, and if I want to drive a big truck just to drive one then I'll do so, and 2011Hemisport should be able to do the same without all of the naysaying horse crap from people who seem to have nothing better to do than sit here on the forums finding things to troll. He even said he uses his truck to tow, so the comments about getting a honda because he simply suggested the truck should have more cupholders shouldn't have even been made in the first place. Nothing but ignorance.
I've seen plenty of tiny cars around here with hitches, including tiny little KIAs, so a honda would probably tow


my first truck was a reg cab 8' ram with nothing special. next truck was an 04 2wd quad cab. the fact that I outfitted it with lots of nice $h!t is for a reason. I plow snow in the winter (heated mirrors, HIDS), cant see that great at night (HIDs), the wheels and tires were for me and for offroading. I own and operate a landscaping company, you know how many times my 2wd got stuck in yards? plenty. I work construction, so I use my truck everyday for the reasons it was designed. I own a motorcycle that sees the bed of my truck multiple times a year. dirt bikes also go in my bed.

dont take personal stabs at me and I wont at you

I'll reiterate, if your biggest concerns are cup holders, you probably dont NEED a truck

theres 2 in the center console, 1 for the driver, 1 for the passenger. I know mine has 2 in each door, 2 on the floor in the rear, 2 in the center seat.

if thats not enough cup holders

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...All-Categories


but for the thread to be entitled "crew cab not so big" and the main focus to be cupholders...

i'll go join a sedan forum when i want to talk about $h!t like that.

btw anything with a resealable lid, gatorade, 20oz bottles, can get tightened back up and thrown on the seat next to you, floor, or even the bed. but you guys are cute with your cup holder requirements
 
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jayman84
That is impossible since the 5.4 is already gone. He either has the 5.0 or the 6.2 motor if its a v8
I stand corrected he does have the 5.0. Wasn't aware they got rid of the 5.4. I don't really keep too many tabs on the new Fords. The only thing I have really kept up with is the Ecoboost just because I wanted to see what all the hype was about.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mdram43
I've seen plenty of tiny cars around here with hitches, including tiny little KIAs, so a honda would probably tow


my first truck was a reg cab 8' ram with nothing special. next truck was an 04 2wd quad cab. the fact that I outfitted it with lots of nice $h!t is for a reason. I plow snow in the winter (heated mirrors, HIDS), cant see that great at night (HIDs), the wheels and tires were for me and for offroading. I own and operate a landscaping company, you know how many times my 2wd got stuck in yards? plenty. I work construction, so I use my truck everyday for the reasons it was designed. I own a motorcycle that sees the bed of my truck multiple times a year. dirt bikes also go in my bed.

dont take personal stabs at me and I wont at you

I'll reiterate, if your biggest concerns are cup holders, you probably dont NEED a truck

theres 2 in the center console, 1 for the driver, 1 for the passenger. I know mine has 2 in each door, 2 on the floor in the rear, 2 in the center seat.

if thats not enough cup holders

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...All-Categories


but for the thread to be entitled "crew cab not so big" and the main focus to be cupholders...

i'll go join a sedan forum when i want to talk about $h!t like that.

btw anything with a resealable lid, gatorade, 20oz bottles, can get tightened back up and thrown on the seat next to you, floor, or even the bed. but you guys are cute with your cup holder requirements
I took personal stabs at you because you're preaching to the guy for simply sharing his opinion on the cupholders, it was something that was mentioned in addition to his criticism of the size of the crew cab. You're the one being an ***. Get off your high horse and quit telling other people what they should drive. I drove a 2006 Dakota ST 2WD with a 3.7L V6. It had crank windows, no power locks, no cruise control, it didn't even have a tilt steering wheel. I put 80k on it before I traded it in. I also used it for light towing. I know all about driving plane jane trucks. I have owned a 1992 Dakota 3.9L V6 Regular Cab 2wd, a 1995 Dakota Ext. Cab 3.9L V6 2WD, and the aforementioned 2006 Dakota. None of these trucks were fancy by any means. I used them for moving around while in college, and I have used them as daily drivers in Iowa through the Iowa winters. My truck beds also see lumber, and landscaping material as well when need be.

Just because a guy has a gripe about cup holders doesn't mean people like you need to get on here and troll him. He can drive whatever the hell he wants and shouldn't have to come under criticism from people like you. Your argument makes no sense either way as he's admitted he uses the truck for towing. Which obviously means he NEEDS a truck, that doesn't mean he can't have criticisms of it. Just because he thinks there should be some more room in the crew cab, as well as some more cupholders doesn't mean he should be driving a Honda or a sedan for that matter. I guess the way I look at it is that he's a fellow Mopar driver and should be treated with some respect on a forums specifically for our brand of vehicles. Instead he gets trolled for sharing minor criticisms of the truck even having admitted he uses it for work and would still drive it over a Ford. You seem to enjoy being assumptive and you know how the saying goes about the word assume.

I'll reiterate that you can take your opinion and shove it. Obviously I could put a Gatorade anywhere I want Einstein, the idea is not to have it rolling around the cab or falling off the seats when I turn. These new space aged things called cupholders are there to hold your drink in a convenient and reachable location since you don't seem to fully grasp their purpose. The only "requirement" I have for cupholders is that they simply be adjustable. That's a personal preference of mine. This has only become a big issue because you and oldjeep seem to think you have the right to tell other people what they should be driving. I fail to see anywhere in 2011Hemisport's original post where he makes the whole thread about cupholders. The way I read it is that he would like to see a little bit more room in the crew cab, and that in addition he would like to see more and bigger cupholders as well as better placement of the 12v outlets. OH MY GOD, HOW DARE YOU! GO DRIVE A HONDA!

On another note, you bring up driving 2wd trucks and owning a landscaping company. Based on what you said and if I wanted to act like you and assume things I would assume you don't need a 2500 to haul that kind of stuff. I could then assume you're compensating for something. In all honesty that's not what I think though. I think you drive what you want and that's the way it should be. It's your money and you paid for it. Same for 2011Hemisport or anyone else on the forums for that matter.

Lastly I'll touch on your comments about the tiny new quad cab. I have a quad cab, and my uncle who is probably about 6 4" rode in the back of it all the way from Des Moines, IA to Grandby, CO. Never once complained about the space in the back seat. I don't think it's tiny by any means, and having the extra bed space is a plus. I guess I see it as a good amount of space because I was so used to having none in my club cab dakota with the horribly designed jump seats in the back.
 

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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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my 320 lb 6'-2" friend and 185 lb 6'-4 friend couldnt even get in the back seat with someone in the front. and thats the 4th gen. now my fathers 08 is uncomfortable as hell on long trips.

i didnt even read the rest of your post because your obviously in need of midol so In a week or so when your monthly flare up settles we'll talk.

where were you going with 2wd and my landscape company? 2wd are risky on hills with any moisture, let alone hills that are soaked.

ok the guy wants to come on DODGEFORUM and talk about how a FORD is better, give me a break. so you guys want cup holders, i posted a link in my prior post, BUY THEM AND SHUT UP

the crew cab is exactly what it says. I have a crew of guys I occasionally carry, and guess what, they fit just fine, with my seat still adjusted to where it needs to be. the quad cabs on the other hand you have to move the seat way forward in order to get anyone back there, so you both sacrifice comfort.

its the perfect fit for someone who 1) the quad cab was too small, and 2) the mega cab was too damn big

i dont know why your getting all personally affended, but taking personal stabs is just weak, argue with facts and personal experience.


as for the rest of your crap, private message me and we'll continue



and let me just say

i'm sorry the cup holders arent perfect, would you care for a built in vibrator or dil%& for the seats?

maybe give george clooney a call and have him build you one of these bad boys, so i dont have to hear about cup holders

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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CarGuyOhio
Styling is 100% opinion and you will find most here will prefer the Dodge, no different than most of the Ford owners will like the Ford design. It is the design of the truck that lures in most sales, not so much what is under the covers.

Look at it this way.... You see two women acorss the room, one hot, and one, well lets say not. You have no idea what kind of person she is, but which one are you going to talk to first? It is all about what something looks like as to which one you pick.
Depends .... which one fills the the cup holders best?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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I was upset the rear didnt have a 110 outlet. On a trip my kids want me to plug in the cord to the computer or Ipad. So I bought an inverter put it under the drivers seat. Then got the same front dash 110 outlet from Dodge and put it next to the 12 volt outlet in the center of the rear console. Problem solved. I too find it tight when my wife and I both have drinks in the center cup holders. If I have a cell phone in the cubby hole next to the floor shifter and an open bag of chips to eat piled ontop of the shifter. I think we get so comfortable in the cab of our trucks with the DVD playing on a trip we think its like our couch. Ive realized maybe Im trying to do too much in there.
 
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