Driving the New Ram and Ford F150's
Thanks for all the comments guys!
I expected some bashing, no problems.
I did build up about 1300rpms at the line, so did the Ford driver. Any more then that and the wheels spun like crazy. If the trucks being tested were 4x4, I wouldve run in 4 wheel since it was such a short course.
I think the 1/4 will prove different. This little track was less than a 1/8 mile, just enough to hit 60. Towards the end, the Ram definitely pulled up on the Ford a bit.
I think the 3.5 and the 6.2 are about the same in acceleration, with me giving the edge to the 6.2.
And I was just a guy going out to have some fun, I do own a Tundra, which I race at the track quite often, so I am not new to racing.
One thing about the Ram, If I used the manual shifter and shifted when I wanted to, I kept even with the Ford. I think shift points had a lot to do with the Ram being slower.
The other thing I know is the Ford Trucks that we were racing had the quickest rear end in them. Who knows what rear the Ram had in it(do they offer different rears with the hemi)?
And they did not even offer a Toyota there...I tried to let them race mine but they insisted I could not. Were they scared? I think so.
And whoever said the Raptor with the 6.2 takes 7.3 seconds to get to 60, that is correct. But that truck is heavier, has bigger offroad tires, and has a completely differently geared transmission(to my knowledge) than the Harley-Davidson that I was racing against with the 6.2.
I look forward to the new power the Ram will have in 2011, can't wait.
I welcome any more comments, but I was not paid by Ford to do this, I did it for my own enjoyment. I ran about 15 times, only got 4 on video. In one of the races I did beat an ecoboost by about 2 lengths with the Ram.
Also, the CHEVY SUCKED. I couldnt keep up with the 3.7 V6 that Ford has in that POS. I tried cornering in the silverado(5.3 V8) and it sucked.
There was also a clock at the end to see our times. Since we ran to about 60, I figured that to be our 0-60 time. The ram was running 5.9-6.1 everytime I drove it. The ecoboost was running 6.2-6.3, and the 6.2 f150 was running around 5.9-6.0. Not sure what normal times are for the Hemi, but I think 5.9 is respectable.
I expected some bashing, no problems.
I did build up about 1300rpms at the line, so did the Ford driver. Any more then that and the wheels spun like crazy. If the trucks being tested were 4x4, I wouldve run in 4 wheel since it was such a short course.
I think the 1/4 will prove different. This little track was less than a 1/8 mile, just enough to hit 60. Towards the end, the Ram definitely pulled up on the Ford a bit.
I think the 3.5 and the 6.2 are about the same in acceleration, with me giving the edge to the 6.2.
And I was just a guy going out to have some fun, I do own a Tundra, which I race at the track quite often, so I am not new to racing.
One thing about the Ram, If I used the manual shifter and shifted when I wanted to, I kept even with the Ford. I think shift points had a lot to do with the Ram being slower.
The other thing I know is the Ford Trucks that we were racing had the quickest rear end in them. Who knows what rear the Ram had in it(do they offer different rears with the hemi)?
And they did not even offer a Toyota there...I tried to let them race mine but they insisted I could not. Were they scared? I think so.
And whoever said the Raptor with the 6.2 takes 7.3 seconds to get to 60, that is correct. But that truck is heavier, has bigger offroad tires, and has a completely differently geared transmission(to my knowledge) than the Harley-Davidson that I was racing against with the 6.2.
I look forward to the new power the Ram will have in 2011, can't wait.
I welcome any more comments, but I was not paid by Ford to do this, I did it for my own enjoyment. I ran about 15 times, only got 4 on video. In one of the races I did beat an ecoboost by about 2 lengths with the Ram.
Also, the CHEVY SUCKED. I couldnt keep up with the 3.7 V6 that Ford has in that POS. I tried cornering in the silverado(5.3 V8) and it sucked.
There was also a clock at the end to see our times. Since we ran to about 60, I figured that to be our 0-60 time. The ram was running 5.9-6.1 everytime I drove it. The ecoboost was running 6.2-6.3, and the 6.2 f150 was running around 5.9-6.0. Not sure what normal times are for the Hemi, but I think 5.9 is respectable.
I haven't been able to actually drive one of the new Fords with the 6.2 in it, but I did get a chance to do a little stop light to stop light running against one that was equipped. Yes, it was verified at the end of the run as we both stopped at the same gas station. Turns out it was an early release 150 that a dealer was using as a program truck.
Overall impression?
I could never pass the 6.2. The 6.2 never got ahead of me more than a bumper. It was only when I hit 90 that I chickened out and got out of the throttle (besides, isn't that where our governor is set at anyways?).
Off the line, the 6.2 took off before me. Now, on paper the new 150 should have no problems with our rams, but unless it was driver error, which the look on the guy's face said differently, we have very little to worry about when it comes to these trucks.
Main thing that needs to be considered is that the new 150's weigh a little big more than our rams do. That just helps our case.
Overall impression?
I could never pass the 6.2. The 6.2 never got ahead of me more than a bumper. It was only when I hit 90 that I chickened out and got out of the throttle (besides, isn't that where our governor is set at anyways?).
Off the line, the 6.2 took off before me. Now, on paper the new 150 should have no problems with our rams, but unless it was driver error, which the look on the guy's face said differently, we have very little to worry about when it comes to these trucks.
Main thing that needs to be considered is that the new 150's weigh a little big more than our rams do. That just helps our case.
I'm not too worried about racing because that's not my thing. I DO worry about Ford though. If they sell a bunch of these "eco-boost" motors, they better have really done their homework. Ford has the worst drivetrains and turbos in the industry. The warranty costs may bankrupt them...unless they are designed to last just over 36,000 miles!
Okay Dothedeww, I can respect your half truth comments coming from a Tundra man. I knew there was something behind your reasoning for posting this on a Dodge forum...you've been spanked by the Ram and you wanted some get back, lol! Just funnin here...I say half truth because you say you race your truck...well then you would know as well as me what low gears feel like from a dig as compared to the 3.23 that was most likely the Ram they used. All Tundras come with 4.10 and 4.30 gears and The Ram comes with sucky 3.23 all the way to 4.10 in the RT. Mine is a RCSB with 3.92 gears and yours if a RSCB is 4.10 or 4.30 if it is a QC. My truck has 17 in rims with 30.5 in tall tires which gives me just as good a hole shot as the RT and the 4.30 Tundra. I have to admit that the Tundra looks good and comes close in looks and performance to the Ram. And though I haven't raced in some time...I've spanked every 5.7 Tundra I've raced (one could have been yours...Tundra bashing, har har!) Now about my final thoughts of who you are...I still think you are with these Ford guys, lol! How else would you get picked to be a driver to represent the Ram in these test? I can't believe that they would use anything but or just anyone off the streets to do this even if you do own a Tundra. So you work for Ford and own a Tundra...wise decision, but you still work for Ford, lol! I watched the video where you said you peeled out lost traction and you didn't and I listened to the low rpm's off the line, I know what I see..you never tried to win. I also saw that you let up as the Ram began to pull up on the Ford...so spare me Mr. nice guy, lol! These test are set up in their favor and you come here to slap the Rams in the face with these fake videos, lol! Naturally the new Fords are fast with the new motors, but 20 HP more doesn't constitute a **** poor race like in these vids Ford Man, lol!!! So with all do respect...
30mpg, give me a break!! Even the Taraus SHO with that motor doesn't get anywhere near that. Last test I saw it averaged 17 mpg.
Thanks for all the comments guys!
I expected some bashing, no problems.
I did build up about 1300rpms at the line, so did the Ford driver. Any more then that and the wheels spun like crazy. If the trucks being tested were 4x4, I wouldve run in 4 wheel since it was such a short course.
I think the 1/4 will prove different. This little track was less than a 1/8 mile, just enough to hit 60. Towards the end, the Ram definitely pulled up on the Ford a bit.
I think the 3.5 and the 6.2 are about the same in acceleration, with me giving the edge to the 6.2.
And I was just a guy going out to have some fun, I do own a Tundra, which I race at the track quite often, so I am not new to racing.
One thing about the Ram, If I used the manual shifter and shifted when I wanted to, I kept even with the Ford. I think shift points had a lot to do with the Ram being slower.
The other thing I know is the Ford Trucks that we were racing had the quickest rear end in them. Who knows what rear the Ram had in it(do they offer different rears with the hemi)?
And they did not even offer a Toyota there...I tried to let them race mine but they insisted I could not. Were they scared? I think so.
And whoever said the Raptor with the 6.2 takes 7.3 seconds to get to 60, that is correct. But that truck is heavier, has bigger offroad tires, and has a completely differently geared transmission(to my knowledge) than the Harley-Davidson that I was racing against with the 6.2.
I look forward to the new power the Ram will have in 2011, can't wait.
I welcome any more comments, but I was not paid by Ford to do this, I did it for my own enjoyment. I ran about 15 times, only got 4 on video. In one of the races I did beat an ecoboost by about 2 lengths with the Ram.
Also, the CHEVY SUCKED. I couldnt keep up with the 3.7 V6 that Ford has in that POS. I tried cornering in the silverado(5.3 V8) and it sucked.
There was also a clock at the end to see our times. Since we ran to about 60, I figured that to be our 0-60 time. The ram was running 5.9-6.1 everytime I drove it. The ecoboost was running 6.2-6.3, and the 6.2 f150 was running around 5.9-6.0. Not sure what normal times are for the Hemi, but I think 5.9 is respectable.
I expected some bashing, no problems.
I did build up about 1300rpms at the line, so did the Ford driver. Any more then that and the wheels spun like crazy. If the trucks being tested were 4x4, I wouldve run in 4 wheel since it was such a short course.
I think the 1/4 will prove different. This little track was less than a 1/8 mile, just enough to hit 60. Towards the end, the Ram definitely pulled up on the Ford a bit.
I think the 3.5 and the 6.2 are about the same in acceleration, with me giving the edge to the 6.2.
And I was just a guy going out to have some fun, I do own a Tundra, which I race at the track quite often, so I am not new to racing.
One thing about the Ram, If I used the manual shifter and shifted when I wanted to, I kept even with the Ford. I think shift points had a lot to do with the Ram being slower.
The other thing I know is the Ford Trucks that we were racing had the quickest rear end in them. Who knows what rear the Ram had in it(do they offer different rears with the hemi)?
And they did not even offer a Toyota there...I tried to let them race mine but they insisted I could not. Were they scared? I think so.
And whoever said the Raptor with the 6.2 takes 7.3 seconds to get to 60, that is correct. But that truck is heavier, has bigger offroad tires, and has a completely differently geared transmission(to my knowledge) than the Harley-Davidson that I was racing against with the 6.2.
I look forward to the new power the Ram will have in 2011, can't wait.
I welcome any more comments, but I was not paid by Ford to do this, I did it for my own enjoyment. I ran about 15 times, only got 4 on video. In one of the races I did beat an ecoboost by about 2 lengths with the Ram.
Also, the CHEVY SUCKED. I couldnt keep up with the 3.7 V6 that Ford has in that POS. I tried cornering in the silverado(5.3 V8) and it sucked.
There was also a clock at the end to see our times. Since we ran to about 60, I figured that to be our 0-60 time. The ram was running 5.9-6.1 everytime I drove it. The ecoboost was running 6.2-6.3, and the 6.2 f150 was running around 5.9-6.0. Not sure what normal times are for the Hemi, but I think 5.9 is respectable.
I don't know what a "normal" 0-60 time for a 4rth Gen Hemi 5.7L Ram is but a RCSB with 3.92's is close to 5 seconds flat, thats enough to knock the Harley F-150 6.2L clean out of the ball park, or at least have its driver looking down to see if his foot was on the brake instead of the gas pedal........
Chev with HO engine 6.6
Toyota Tundra 6.9
Dodge Hemi 7.4
F150 8.4
The Ram was rated as the best truck of the four tested, but obviously not on the basis of speed alone.
http://www.insideline.com/dodge/ram-...pagination_top
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