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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Default Engine noise update: Collapsed lifters??

Took my 2009 Ram Hemi with 111,000 km (68,000 miles) to the local dealer today to diagnose a slight rattle/ticking at idle. Diagnosis is collapsed lifters - intake side - on cylinders 3 and 5. Dealer recommended replacing all 16 lifters. Cost for 16 lifters, head gasket, rocker gasket, exhaust manifold gasket, and labour...with 13% tax....$2,217.06. Powertrain warranty in Canada is 100,000 km so I'm 11,000 km out of warranty.

No explaination of how this could have happened. Truck has alwasy been run on 5W20 synthetic.

I told local dealer not to do the work. My buddy works at the dealership where I bought the truck (out of town) and I've sent him the information and he is seeing what kind of break they can give me.

I am also contacting Chrysler Canada to see about a goodwill policy.

Any thoughts?

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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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an '09 with no lifetime warranty?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Hopefully they will pro rate the charges since you are so close to the 100k mark.

On the collapsed lifters, I would expect a lot more loud clacking noise and a very rough running engine. Maybe lifters with the MDS are different.

Years ago I had rebuilt one of my engines (a Ford 302) with all new racing parts, cams, lifters, rods, pistons etc., started it up and it ran very healthy. ten minutes later a vibration started and then a clacking noise and it started to run very rough. Yup, a brand new collapsed lifter. Since it was so new I only replaced that one and never had any other problems from that engine.

If it really does turn out to be lifters I would put a complete set in. Not sure how cams are now-a-days, but in years past I would have put a new cam in also, but they were a lot cheaper back then also.

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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LVRR
Hopefully they will pro rate the charges since you are so close to the 100k mark.

On the collapsed lifters, I would expect a lot more loud clacking noise and a very rough running engine. Maybe lifters with the MDS are different.

Years ago I had rebuilt one of my engines (a Ford 302) with all new racing parts, cams, lifters, rods, pistons etc., started it up and it ran very healthy. ten minutes later a vibration started and then a clacking noise and it started to run very rough. Yup, a brand new collapsed lifter. Since it was so new I only replaced that one and never had any other problems from that engine.

If it really does turn out to be lifters I would put a complete set in. Not sure how cams are now-a-days, but in years past I would have put a new cam in also, but they were a lot cheaper back then also.

Keep us updated.
I'm getting a second opinion from the dealership where my friend works. I'm not sure about the lifters either....dealership asked if my gas mileage was down and if check engine light had come on. No in both cases. Thanks for your comments and believe me I'll post updates.
 
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Originally Posted by BullyT
Took my 2009 Ram Hemi with 111,000 km (68,000 miles) to the local dealer today to diagnose a slight rattle/ticking at idle. Diagnosis is collapsed lifters - intake side - on cylinders 3 and 5. Dealer recommended replacing all 16 lifters. Cost for 16 lifters, head gasket, rocker gasket, exhaust manifold gasket, and labour...with 13% tax....$2,217.06. Powertrain warranty in Canada is 100,000 km so I'm 11,000 km out of warranty.

No explaination of how this could have happened. Truck has alwasy been run on 5W20 synthetic.

I told local dealer not to do the work. My buddy works at the dealership where I bought the truck (out of town) and I've sent him the information and he is seeing what kind of break they can give me.

I am also contacting Chrysler Canada to see about a goodwill policy.

Any thoughts?
Bully,

If this does turn out to be the proper diagnosis I would indeed suggest calling Chrysler Canada at 800-465-2001 to see if they will help in the repair.
 
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Originally Posted by RAMULAK
an '09 with no lifetime warranty?

Lifetime warranties were only offered in the U.S.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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If this does turn out to be the proper diagnosis I would indeed suggest calling Chrysler Canada at 800-465-2001 to see if they will help in the repair.
Thanks, Chris. Katie from DodgeCACares saw my post(s) and sent me a PM requesting my VIN#. I believe she is looking into it. Should I also contact Chrysler Canada, or is this one and the same?
 
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Originally Posted by BullyT
Thanks, Chris. Katie from DodgeCACares saw my post(s) and sent me a PM requesting my VIN#. I believe she is looking into it. Should I also contact Chrysler Canada, or is this one and the same?

She is Chrysler Canada and will be able to assist you.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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Im skeptical chrysler canada even cares, your off warenty.. I hope they will help you out as thier has to be a flaw in componats or assembly.
Get your case number from chrysler and contact CANVAP it is a abertration based here in Canada.
 

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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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he should wait and see what happens with chrysler first give them the benefit
 
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