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11-14-2006, 03:55 PM
Ram News
Designer of popular 300 will now put his personal stamp on a revamped Dodge Ram.
Gina Chon / Wall Street Journal
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For the future Ram, Ralph Gilles says he is focusing on giving the truck a more aerodynamic design. The truck is the biggest selling model line for the Chrysler Group. See full image
Chrysler Group executive Ralph Gilles, one of the hottest designers in the auto industry, did so well on his last assignment -- heading the studio that produced the Chrysler 300, one of the most eye-catching sedans to come out of Detroit in decades -- that his bosses have rewarded him with what might be an even bigger challenge: reinventing pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles amid falling sales.
Gilles, Chrysler Group's new vice president of Jeep/Truck and Component Design, knows he faces a tough task. The pickup-truck segment had seen softening in recent months because of high gasoline prices, and sales have fallen by 10.4 percent through October, according to Autodata Corp. Some consumers who once considered a large pickup as a replacement for a conventional sedan appear to be having second thoughts, industry analysts say. Large SUVs have also taken a hit, while sales of midsize SUVs, the category that includes the Jeep Grand Cherokee, have been in free fall as consumers shift toward smaller SUVs and sedans.
At the same time, the competition is intensifying. General Motors Corp. has launched redesigned Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks. And a revamped Toyota Tundra -- Toyota Motor Corp.'s first serious attempt to compete in the full-size pickup-truck market in the U.S. -- will be introduced next year.
Auto analyst Kevin Tynan of Argus Research Co. says although pickup-truck buyers are the most loyal of any other segment, Asian automakers have proved in the past that they can take away market share from the domestic manufacturers. "I don't think the domestic manufacturers have faced the most intense competition yet," Tynan says. "It's going to get even more difficult."
Chrysler Group, a unit of DaimlerChrysler AG, is also under intense pressure to produce product hits as it tries to turn itself around from the $1.48 billion operating loss it reported for the third quarter and reduce an inventory glut, particularly in the SUV and pickup-truck segments. In October, sales for the Chrysler Group fell by 3 percent while domestic rivals made gains.
Launch of Ram crucial
The 36-year-old Gilles (pronounced jeels) admits he has never been a truck kind of guy. So he has been researching pickup trucks for one of the first places on which he will put his personal stamp: a revamped Dodge Ram. The launch of a new Ram is crucial for the Chrysler Group because the truck is the biggest selling model line for the company. Year-to-date sales through October have weakened by 11.8 percent, according to Autodata.
Last year, Gilles went down to Texas for three days to immerse himself in America's largest pickup-truck market, which included a night at Billy Bob's Texas in Fort Worth. At the self-described "world's largest honky tonk" where there are Willie Nelson concerts and live bull riding, Gilles hung out with Billy Bob's customers to talk to them about how they use their pickup trucks and how the vehicles could be improved.
"These were cowboys, but they were fashion-conscious. I left there feeling supercharged," says Gilles, a sports-car fanatic who used to spend his spare time racing a Dodge Viper before he switched to a Spec Neon.
A laid-back guy who watches "Desperate Housewives," Gilles occasionally swears during meetings and often jokes with colleagues. During a meeting to review a future SUV, he jokingly put his head on a colleague's shoulder who said he could meet one of Gilles's requests.
Mike Donoughe, vice president of Chrysler's body-on-frame product team, describes Gilles's style as one of relaxed intensity. "He's hyperkinetic," Donoughe says. "And what that translates to is he doesn't come across as stuffy, so that opens up channels of communication that otherwise might be closed."
Gilles a role model
Because of his quick ascent at Chrysler, Gilles, a Canadian native of Haitian descent, has become a role model for aspiring car designers and for young Haitians. He has been asked to be head of the Haitian Day parade in Miami and gave a high-school commencement speech earlier this year.
Though only 36, Gilles considers himself an old-timer at Chrysler with 14 years at the automaker.
His latest project, the Dodge Ram, now stands out in the segment with a big-fendered, blocky front end.
For the future Ram, Gilles says he is focusing on giving the truck a more aerodynamic design, which will improve fuel economy and will be tested in Chrysler's $37.5 million wind tunnel. (He says the design team spent three months working on the side-view mirrors on the Chrysler 300 to maximize aerodynamics.)
The trend in trucks and SUVs in recent years has been to make them look tougher, bolder and more aggressive with each redesign. But Gilles says you can only take that so far before it becomes cartoonish.
The future Dodge Ram will still look bold and aggressive. But Gilles also notes that pickup trucks, like cars, are becoming more like homes, with contractors needing space for files and room for a laptop computer. That means designers will spend a lot of time focusing on a refined interior with technological features, like an iPod adapter.
Gilles is also closely examining the letters and pictures he receives from truck owners. Impressed by shots of a souped-up 2002 Dodge Ram, he called the owner in Maryland and spent 20 minutes talking to him about what he did to the truck and why.
According to Gilles, the perfect design is one of timeless beauty and one that creates tension but doesn't scare a consumer away. "I've turned down designs that were too good, too pleasing," he says.
"I like designs that some people will love and some people will hate. It has to stimulate you one way or another."
His other big project is monitoring consumer reaction to the new Jeep Compass and Patriot SUVs. He says the small sport-utility vehicles will show where Chrysler can take the Jeep brand, which has long been known for its rugged vehicles like the Jeep Wrangler. Because of the struggling market for full- and midsize SUVs, the Jeep brand has seen sales drop by 3.9 percent through October, according to Autodata.
Gina Chon / Wall Street Journal
DaimlerChrysler
For the future Ram, Ralph Gilles says he is focusing on giving the truck a more aerodynamic design. The truck is the biggest selling model line for the Chrysler Group. See full image
Chrysler Group executive Ralph Gilles, one of the hottest designers in the auto industry, did so well on his last assignment -- heading the studio that produced the Chrysler 300, one of the most eye-catching sedans to come out of Detroit in decades -- that his bosses have rewarded him with what might be an even bigger challenge: reinventing pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles amid falling sales.
Gilles, Chrysler Group's new vice president of Jeep/Truck and Component Design, knows he faces a tough task. The pickup-truck segment had seen softening in recent months because of high gasoline prices, and sales have fallen by 10.4 percent through October, according to Autodata Corp. Some consumers who once considered a large pickup as a replacement for a conventional sedan appear to be having second thoughts, industry analysts say. Large SUVs have also taken a hit, while sales of midsize SUVs, the category that includes the Jeep Grand Cherokee, have been in free fall as consumers shift toward smaller SUVs and sedans.
At the same time, the competition is intensifying. General Motors Corp. has launched redesigned Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks. And a revamped Toyota Tundra -- Toyota Motor Corp.'s first serious attempt to compete in the full-size pickup-truck market in the U.S. -- will be introduced next year.
Auto analyst Kevin Tynan of Argus Research Co. says although pickup-truck buyers are the most loyal of any other segment, Asian automakers have proved in the past that they can take away market share from the domestic manufacturers. "I don't think the domestic manufacturers have faced the most intense competition yet," Tynan says. "It's going to get even more difficult."
Chrysler Group, a unit of DaimlerChrysler AG, is also under intense pressure to produce product hits as it tries to turn itself around from the $1.48 billion operating loss it reported for the third quarter and reduce an inventory glut, particularly in the SUV and pickup-truck segments. In October, sales for the Chrysler Group fell by 3 percent while domestic rivals made gains.
Launch of Ram crucial
The 36-year-old Gilles (pronounced jeels) admits he has never been a truck kind of guy. So he has been researching pickup trucks for one of the first places on which he will put his personal stamp: a revamped Dodge Ram. The launch of a new Ram is crucial for the Chrysler Group because the truck is the biggest selling model line for the company. Year-to-date sales through October have weakened by 11.8 percent, according to Autodata.
Last year, Gilles went down to Texas for three days to immerse himself in America's largest pickup-truck market, which included a night at Billy Bob's Texas in Fort Worth. At the self-described "world's largest honky tonk" where there are Willie Nelson concerts and live bull riding, Gilles hung out with Billy Bob's customers to talk to them about how they use their pickup trucks and how the vehicles could be improved.
"These were cowboys, but they were fashion-conscious. I left there feeling supercharged," says Gilles, a sports-car fanatic who used to spend his spare time racing a Dodge Viper before he switched to a Spec Neon.
A laid-back guy who watches "Desperate Housewives," Gilles occasionally swears during meetings and often jokes with colleagues. During a meeting to review a future SUV, he jokingly put his head on a colleague's shoulder who said he could meet one of Gilles's requests.
Mike Donoughe, vice president of Chrysler's body-on-frame product team, describes Gilles's style as one of relaxed intensity. "He's hyperkinetic," Donoughe says. "And what that translates to is he doesn't come across as stuffy, so that opens up channels of communication that otherwise might be closed."
Gilles a role model
Because of his quick ascent at Chrysler, Gilles, a Canadian native of Haitian descent, has become a role model for aspiring car designers and for young Haitians. He has been asked to be head of the Haitian Day parade in Miami and gave a high-school commencement speech earlier this year.
Though only 36, Gilles considers himself an old-timer at Chrysler with 14 years at the automaker.
His latest project, the Dodge Ram, now stands out in the segment with a big-fendered, blocky front end.
For the future Ram, Gilles says he is focusing on giving the truck a more aerodynamic design, which will improve fuel economy and will be tested in Chrysler's $37.5 million wind tunnel. (He says the design team spent three months working on the side-view mirrors on the Chrysler 300 to maximize aerodynamics.)
The trend in trucks and SUVs in recent years has been to make them look tougher, bolder and more aggressive with each redesign. But Gilles says you can only take that so far before it becomes cartoonish.
The future Dodge Ram will still look bold and aggressive. But Gilles also notes that pickup trucks, like cars, are becoming more like homes, with contractors needing space for files and room for a laptop computer. That means designers will spend a lot of time focusing on a refined interior with technological features, like an iPod adapter.
Gilles is also closely examining the letters and pictures he receives from truck owners. Impressed by shots of a souped-up 2002 Dodge Ram, he called the owner in Maryland and spent 20 minutes talking to him about what he did to the truck and why.
According to Gilles, the perfect design is one of timeless beauty and one that creates tension but doesn't scare a consumer away. "I've turned down designs that were too good, too pleasing," he says.
"I like designs that some people will love and some people will hate. It has to stimulate you one way or another."
His other big project is monitoring consumer reaction to the new Jeep Compass and Patriot SUVs. He says the small sport-utility vehicles will show where Chrysler can take the Jeep brand, which has long been known for its rugged vehicles like the Jeep Wrangler. Because of the struggling market for full- and midsize SUVs, the Jeep brand has seen sales drop by 3.9 percent through October, according to Autodata.
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the Concept Rams that I saw at the Dallas Convention Center earlier this year didnt really look too much like that Rampage at all, but we will see. They did have one concept truck that looked more like the PowerWagon concept, but different. The main 2 concept trucks that they were asking us all the questions about did have a smaller, more Charger-like grill and definitely a more aerodynamic look but still meaty and tough. Man I wish I could have taken pictures, but after the strip-search(almost) they did on us going in the door, it would have been pretty hard to hide a camera. I still say from what I saw, that everybody here will be happy with whats coming out. My friends are working a deal with chrysler to purchase another Dodge franchise(they are Mitsu dealers right now) and maybe if everything goes through I will have a chance to see or hear something more from the inside again like back in the old days when they were a Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge Truck dealer.
Oh and another comment on something... now that I look at the pictures above, the headlights of one of the concepts I saw did have headlights that were similar to the rampage in the way they go to the fender wheel in the front, they went to the edge and followed it around but they werent so massive and the front grill was a seperate pronounced piece and from what I remember all 3 of the concepts shown had very little chrome on them. They did have the current style of 20" wheels on them too.
Oh and another comment on something... now that I look at the pictures above, the headlights of one of the concepts I saw did have headlights that were similar to the rampage in the way they go to the fender wheel in the front, they went to the edge and followed it around but they werent so massive and the front grill was a seperate pronounced piece and from what I remember all 3 of the concepts shown had very little chrome on them. They did have the current style of 20" wheels on them too.
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11-18-2006, 12:52 AM
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cartoonish!!! in this way??? and viper4sale..i have one qustion for you. the cabs of the concepts you seen didnt they look like the cab on the power wagon concept
[IMG]local://upfiles/41353/5BB1C833885444798E60C3E12B4FCBB0.jpg[/IMG]the guy knows what he is talking about..look at the tundra..i mean it looks like somethings that would be on the movie cars!!!
[IMG]local://upfiles/41353/5BB1C833885444798E60C3E12B4FCBB0.jpg[/IMG]the guy knows what he is talking about..look at the tundra..i mean it looks like somethings that would be on the movie cars!!!
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no they looked alot like the current style... in fact besides the clay interior mockup they had(which they let us sit in but we couldnt actually touch anything) the interiors of the actual conceptual trucks they had all had the current interior in them.
But looking at that pic of the new tundra I bet that when the new Dodge comes out years from now that Toyota fans will say that Dodge copied the new Dodge ram looks from it for it has similar headlights, pronounced grill and the damn bumper already looks exactly like the current model. The bodies on the concepts did all have a built in "fender flare" type of protrusinsabove each of the wheelwells, not much more than a 1/4 to a 1/2 of an inch though. But at least thats better than the totally flat area that we currently have there now. Also on the concepts they had a fullsize rear window that was power and went up and down not like the partial side-slide they have now.
Its kinda sickening looking at that photo above of the tundra and how similar it already looks like the Ram... what a total rip-off and whats worse is they are making them right here in Texas now. Like because they make them here that somehow it makes them more American or something... WHATEVER!!!
But looking at that pic of the new tundra I bet that when the new Dodge comes out years from now that Toyota fans will say that Dodge copied the new Dodge ram looks from it for it has similar headlights, pronounced grill and the damn bumper already looks exactly like the current model. The bodies on the concepts did all have a built in "fender flare" type of protrusinsabove each of the wheelwells, not much more than a 1/4 to a 1/2 of an inch though. But at least thats better than the totally flat area that we currently have there now. Also on the concepts they had a fullsize rear window that was power and went up and down not like the partial side-slide they have now.
Its kinda sickening looking at that photo above of the tundra and how similar it already looks like the Ram... what a total rip-off and whats worse is they are making them right here in Texas now. Like because they make them here that somehow it makes them more American or something... WHATEVER!!!
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11-18-2006, 07:50 PM
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yea they call it the texas tundra!!there tacoma looks like the late dodge dakota now they copy the ram!!!but the current rams look a hundred times better then that ****!!! gilles is right to much is to tackie and to cartoonish!!the new tundra is a great example of that!!!i dont see people knocking down dealers doors to buy this ugly *** thing!!iam sure the next ram you seen viper4sale looks better then the tundra!!!even if they half *** its design.oh!!! did you see the tail lights or the ram concept???