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Old 07-14-2010, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by darthroush
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Saying that a car is like dishes because they have glass, plastic and metal on them is completely ignorant and asinine. What about the paint? The part you are saying will be completely fine? Are your dishes painted?
To make it clear for those who missed the bulletin
Paint is acrylic.
Acrylic is plastic
Dishes are made from metal, glass and plastic and in some cases paper

When you have such a strong reaction to information you should first temper your response with reason.

Understand the person who has information is not the ignorant one
it is the person who does not have that information who is ignorant.

I would think it was asinine to call some one asinine because they shared some information with me that I was ignorant of.

You should continue to use your special soaps and waxes and clays.
It works for you.
Those of us who know that acrylic is plastic don't have a problem making the connection.
 
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ShocK
To make it clear for those who missed the bulletin
Paint is acrylic.
Acrylic is plastic
Dishes are made from metal, glass and plastic and in some cases paper
What about cars that don't have acrylic paint on them?

When you have such a strong reaction to information you should first temper your response with reason.
I must have missed where I didn't provide reason to my response. Dish soap is for dishes. I hope that was short enough this time around.

Understand the person who has information is not the ignorant one
it is the person who does not have that information who is ignorant.
So, the person who reads the car owner's manual that says not to use dish soap to wash said car and doesn't follow the dish soap manufacturer's recommendation of not using the dish soap to wash car paint, but then doing it anyways "because car paint is plastic just like dishes" is...?

I would think it was asinine to call some one asinine because they shared some information with me that I was ignorant of.
I didn't call myself asinine, but OK. Instead of trying to play a word game, which you just failed at (you just said I shouldn't call myself asinine because I shared information with you, that you were "ignorant of," though, I don't know how you pulled that one off either since you said it to begin with), try reading what I posted and comprehending it.

You should continue to use your special soaps and waxes and clays.
It works for you.
Those of us who know that acrylic is plastic don't have a problem making the connection.
Yet, you can't make the connection of premature clearcoat failure to regularly using dish soap on car paint whenever you wash it.

As they say, ignorance is bliss.
 
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Old 07-20-2010, 10:57 PM
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Sorry, but I have always used Dawn when I want to strip the wax off a car. When I don't, I use a pouder soap that I mix up into five gallons of water. Can't remember the name, but it works pretty well. As the OP stated, I never let the soap dry: Just wash a quarter at a time and rinse as you go.

No brushes either. Only a microfiber hand mitt one for soap and one to dry with. When rinsing, I use a filtration water source. The tap on the house is already filtered and when I'm somewhere where the water isn't, I use a $30.00 rig that I made with parts from lowes. PVC housing with two filters inside.

Usually, I just let the car/truck dry in the sun for an hour or so while I kick back and enjoy a beer before going back to work.

Since the wax has been stripped, I use Mother's Syntech or Turtle Wax Black as the wax. If the car/truck is going to a show, I'll rub the vehicle down with Mother's "California Shine" detailing spray.

It's never failed me yet.

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Using Dawn to occasionally strip the paint clean isn't what was being said.
 
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Eh, I had more to say in my post than just the Dawn ordeal.
 
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When washing a car using the micro fiber mit can hold damaging dirt particles that would easily rinse out of a soft bristle brush.
As a preference I use a soft brush to wash with.
For me it is much easier to keep grit free.
 
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I use a natural sea songe with a leather chamois for drying,
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Originally Posted by fascistfaction
I use a natural sea songe with a leather chamois for drying,
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What's a "sea songe"?
 
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Originally Posted by fascistfaction
I use a natural sea songe with a leather chamois for drying,
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I like a sheepskin wash mitt for the body and a microfiber for the lower panels and wheels -- having separate mitts also helps to keep them separate and avoid cross-contamination.

I haven't tried a sea sponge, but I hear one problem can be they actually don't clean well enough and may leave behind residue that can cause problems during drying.

A leather chamois for drying can be very problematic: it strips wax and can scratch modern paints if not used meticulously -- in fact, even if used meticulously. Maybe you've just been lucky, but I have seen a lot of people cause problems with them and they wondered why they need to polish and wax after every wash. In the old days with hard laquers they were fine because the paints wouldn't scratch so easily, but not with modern paints. Instead, use a quality waffle weave microfiber or plush cotton terry towel.
 

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