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i am brand new at this kinda thing, but i have a 09 charger all wheel drive, and it popped code of po2767, the diagnostic message reads: t case and i cant go over 25 mph. because the computer is limiting everything. please advise. thank you
 
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Welcome to DF
I got your message and sent you a pm. But for everyone else, here is the pdf file.
Then I'll move your post to the LX/ Charger section.
28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM)/Diagnosis and Testing
P2767-INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 CIRCUIT NO SIGNAL




For a complete wiring diagram, refer to the Wiring Information.

Theory of Operation
The Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) is one of two hall effect speed sensors that are used by the Transmission Control Module (TCM) to calculate the transmissions turbine speed. Since the turbine speed could not be measured directly, two of the drive elements are measured. Two input speed sensors are required because both elements are not active in all gears.

When Monitored:
Engine speed greater than 450 RPM with none of the following DTCs present: engine speed, TCM undervoltage, output speed sensor, and/or rear wheel speed DTCs. Also required are all wheel speeds above 250 RPM and no wheel slip detected (signal from the ABS system).

Set Condition:
If the Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) signal is equal to 0 RPM.


Possible Causes
(T72) SENSOR SUPPLY VOLTAGE CIRCUIT OPEN
(T71) INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN
(T71) SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORT TO ANOTHER CIRCUIT
(T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT OPEN
(T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT SHORT TO ANOTHER CIRCUIT
(T71) SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORT TO GROUND
(T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT SHORT TO GROUND
INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3)
TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE

Always perform the NAG1 Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).



1.CHECK IF DTC IS CURRENT


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NOTE: The Transmission Control Module stores under Environmental Data the transmission operating conditions when the DTC was set. Before erasure of any DTC, record all information pertaining to the DTC, even if there is more than one DTC stored.
1. With the scan tool, erase transmission DTCs.
2. Using the Environmental Data previously recorded, drive the vehicle and try to duplicate the conditions in which the DTC originally set.


Did the DTC P2767 reset?

Yes

Go To 2

No

Go To 10



2.CHECK THE (T72) SENSOR SUPPLY VOLTAGE CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN


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1. Turn the ignition off to the lock position.
2. Disconnect the TCM C2 harness connector.
3. Disconnect the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


NOTE: Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
4. Measure the resistance of the (T72) Sensor Supply Voltage circuit from the TCM C2 harness connector to the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


Is the resistance above 5.0 Ohms?

Yes

Repair the (T72) Sensor Supply Voltage circuit for an open.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 3




3.CHECK THE (T71) INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN


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1. Measure the resistance of the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit from the TCM C2 harness connector to the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


Is the resistance above 5.0 Ohms?

Yes

Repair the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit for an open.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 4




4.CHECK THE (T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN


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1. Measure the resistance of the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit from the TCM C2 harness connector to the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


Is the resistance above 5.0 Ohms?

Yes

Repair the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit for an open.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 5




5.CHECK THE (T71) INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO ANOTHER CIRCUIT(S)


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1. Measure the resistance of the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit to all the other circuits in the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms between the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit and any other circuit(s) in the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector?

Yes

Repair the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit for a short to another circuit(s).
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 6




6.CHECK THE (T71) INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND


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1. Measure the resistance between ground and the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit.


Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

Yes

Repair the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit for a short to ground.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 7




7.CHECK THE (T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO ANOTHER CIRCUIT(S)


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1. Measure the resistance between the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit to all the other circuits in the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.


Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms between the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit and any other circuit(s) in the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.

Yes

Repair the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit for a short to another circuit(s)
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 8




8.CHECK THE (T13) SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND


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1. Measure the resistance between ground and the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit.


Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

Yes

Repair the (T13) Sensor Ground circuit for a short to ground.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Go To 9




9.CHECK THE INPUT SPEED SENSOR 2 (N3) SIGNAL


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1. Reconnect the Electrohydraulic Control Unit Assembly harness connector.
2. Using a Lab Scope, backprobe the (T71) Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) Signal circuit at the TCM C2 harness connector.




WARNING: Properly support the vehicle.


3. Raise all drive wheels off the ground.
4. Start the engine.

WARNING: To avoid possible serious or fatal injury, keep hands and feet clear of rotating wheels.


5. Place gear selector in drive and increase vehicle speed to engage 2nd gear.
6. Compare the scope pattern on the Lab Scope with a typical 5-volt square wave pattern.


Is the scope pattern comparable to the typical 5-volt square wave signal scope pattern?

Yes

Using the schematics as a guide, check the Transmission Control Module (TCM) terminals for corrosion, damage, or terminal push out. Pay particular attention to all power and ground circuits. If no problems are found, replace the TCM in accordance with the Service Information. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8E - Electronic Control Modules/MODULE, Transmission Control - Description) .
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Replace the Input Speed Sensor 2 (N3) in accordance with the Service Information. (Refer to 21 - Transmission and Transfer Case/Automatic - NAG1/UNIT, Electrohydraulic Control - Disassembly) .
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).




10.INTERMITTENT WIRING AND CONNECTORS


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1. The conditions necessary to set this DTC are not present at this time.
2. Using the schematics as a guide, inspect the wiring and connectors specific to this circuit.
3. Wiggle the wiring and connectors while checking for any possible open or shorted circuits.
4. Check for any Service Information Tune-ups or Technical Service Bulletins that may apply.


Were there any problems found?

Yes

Repair as necessary.
Perform the NAG1 TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. (Refer to 28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics/MODULE, Transmission Control (TCM) - Standard Procedure).

No

Test Complete.
 



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