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JBA Shorties = Bad Fuel Economy :(
So after doing some research on headers I decided to pull the trigger and get a set of JBA Shorty Cat4wards. Install was a pain in the a**. I fought for the longest time to get a good seal on the midpipe connection. Nonetheless, after getting it all sealed up with RTV high temp gasket, I can't get better than ~15L/100km (~15.5mpg) for mileage on my daily highway commute (110km/h highway speed). Where before the headers I was getting ~11L/100km (~21mpg). Is it normal for headers to be that detrimental to fuel economy? I've reset my PCM after the install but that hasn't helped. Do I need to replace the O2 sensors or is it possible that they are poisoned?
What's your thoughts?
What's your thoughts?
I found a slight improvement with my Jba's, but i also went with a custom tune ,and true duals, and im very pleased with the power gain as well; I also had a hell of a time getting that mid-pipe seal, plenty of that high heat copper permatex did the trick.
I had a hell of a time installing the JBA headers, and definitely wouldn't do it again.
I am kicking myself for not going with Long Tubes.
I definitely have a leak, but thats due to a bad weld on JBA's part.
I drive the same route to work, and with my heavy winter tires/rims on (20lbs heavier then stock) I managed to obtain better gas mileage
I am kicking myself for not going with Long Tubes.
I definitely have a leak, but thats due to a bad weld on JBA's part.
I drive the same route to work, and with my heavy winter tires/rims on (20lbs heavier then stock) I managed to obtain better gas mileage
I Agree Talon, that seal was a mother@#$@#r, in short, i should have went with the American Racing long tubes with their cats and all, but i was afraid to lose the factory cats, even though my dealer is really cool, you never know, if i was to have some sort of engine failure , somewhere else, then i might get screwed with the lifetime powertrain.Im not a know it all, but that permatex copperseal worked for me, i just had to let it sit , cold, for about 4 hours after i sealed it, and the leak was gone.Just curious Talon, was it the drivers side that gave you the hard time?
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I Agree Talon, that seal was a mother@#$@#r, in short, i should have went with the American Racing long tubes with their cats and all, but i was afraid to lose the factory cats, even though my dealer is really cool, you never know, if i was to have some sort of engine failure , somewhere else, then i might get screwed with the lifetime powertrain.Im not a know it all, but that permatex copperseal worked for me, i just had to let it sit , cold, for about 4 hours after i sealed it, and the leak was gone.Just curious Talon, was it the drivers side that gave you the hard time?
If I can scrum up the money I will get Stainless Works Longtubes w/ Cat-less Y pipe
Just wanted to bump this.
Best MPG prior to the JBAs was 20.56mpg all highway up to camp and back.
MPG directly after JBA headers and catback. w/ 4 adults, luggage, sand bags, heavy winter tires.
100% highway, filled prior to leaving I got 19.10mpg.
Rotation previous to this was 16.8mpg
Truck just rolled 10,000km. Drive the same route up to camp.
Best MPG prior to the JBAs was 20.56mpg all highway up to camp and back.
MPG directly after JBA headers and catback. w/ 4 adults, luggage, sand bags, heavy winter tires.
100% highway, filled prior to leaving I got 19.10mpg.
Rotation previous to this was 16.8mpg
Truck just rolled 10,000km. Drive the same route up to camp.
I don’t have headers yet, but every time I changed something on my truck (i.e. spark plugs, cai, exhaust) it ran like crap for several days after the install. I would disconnect the battery to reset the pcm, but it still ran rough (hesitation, rough idle, crappy mpgs). It would take about a week for my truck to smooth out and run correctly, so your problem might change after a few days. It could be that your computer is still learning the new parameters created by your headers.
Last edited by RGVram99; Nov 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM.





