Just get a K&N for $200 or so, or the AirRaid uses some of the stock parts and thus costs less. don't know which would be cheaper, but if cost is the issue I bet you could do an AirRaid and wrap it in Thermotec's heat wrap in case the plastic tube doesn't fight heat soak like the aluminum does (air from the grille cools the aluminum faster than plastic I think).

Also there's another thread here where a guy built his own nice one for next to nothing. And the tubing he used is ceramic-coated so I would imagine it fights heat-soak even better.

And I can't let Phantom505's 'lots of problems' blathering go without comment: Utter nonsense.

I had a rattle and the dealer fixed it. I had a weight sensor fault in the OCS and it fixed itself. Otherwise I just drive it like I stole it and enjoy the hell out of myself. If he had problems they were either owned by him or it was an aberration.

 

I noted the other guy who built his own CAI....hope Phantom dosnt see that thread, God knows what insulting e-mail he will send him.
Something along the lines that it aint anodized, so it isnt a real performance part.
Or how Ty would have...(fill in the blank).

And ya know what, I have had my car since Aug 2004, drive the crap out of it, and have had ZERO problems, in fact, it gets better and better each month...
Ed

 

Wow what a mess.


EMB any time you wish we can have a chat on a phone to help with your concerns. Anytime. Many will copy I posted that earlier, the point is phantom505 was the original.
A ceramic-coated pipe will not aid a cold air intake. It is designed to help with high tempretures..you know, exhaust. Go ahead touch a ceramic-coated pipe it will be hot. People who had purchased a phantom intake will receive a proper cover.

I am Ty full name Timon Anderson pronounced (tyman).

If I was going to rob you I would have taken your personal info and dug up your identity and really robbed you. That happened to me personally awhile back and it can really drain the account.

I was and continue to work with Phantom who designed the intake called the phantom intake. He bought the car while his grand am was up on blocks while we developed and repaired his turbo system, long distance. Simple really. His investment was and is his creative contribution.

I dropped the funds to have the tubes bent and the parts purchased to assemble the kit. The silicone was made by high temp silicone.. The best around.

The pipes are hand polished here in the us of A. Actually every part was made in the us. I don’t do china crap.

Your issue (referring to the collective few who used this forum to vent) was myself. I felt the pressure from phantom to let the product out quickly..as he was being pressured to do so ( show what he had). So I let it out right before I moved locations and while I started a merger with a transmission shop ontop of it. Then ontop of this our site (I do not manage it) continued to crash. This month I was finally able to start cleaning up the site.

Then to top it off the shipments from high temp silicone were late… they had just switched to fed ex and fed ex accidentally missed the shipment. Yes I can back all this info.

So as unfortunate as this may be your concerns were warranted at that time.… The extent this has gone?? Well I would say it borders on no life syndrome… The interesting part was the need to keep alive the negative initial issues instead of the facts I shared with those who I talked to.

There was one person who requested a refund almost immediately after ordering product, we posted the refund with paypal and then continued to transfer our site and location.. Unfortunately for whatever reason the refund took action from the credit card company but we did find that our original post to refund was honored and yes it did exist..So payapl (we no longer use them) bit it again.


I am not phantom505..lol never have been. But I guess this "twin identity idea" makes for a boredom killer.


No we did not use premade pipe. Truly this was made from scratch and all hand made by legal Americans. truck pipe is extremely expensive as well.

Gains from the intake so far are from 10whp to 13whp. Without a computer. yes only the first run as the computer relearns as I also posted many moons ago. Others kits were busy selling you outright lies.

Phantom sold his car mostly because of the issue of the transmission and availability of true performance parts for it.

Phantom drove the intake in the snow in the rain through puddles … he hammered the car and no intake ingestion problems at all.

Still this intake design is not for stock 9-5 picks up the kid’s car. This is intended for the person wanting to get cool air for better overall performance, something to give your real perormance adders a chance to breath.

You will find collaborative movements to look into the intake differences came up with the fact we already knew. Warm air intakes based under the hood always get hot and can even rob hp. So they all end up being around the same in the gain department. The funny part is they all use the “blowby” air hot out of the engine and pump it back into the intake system. Lol that is pathetic if you want a “real” cold air intake. Any time anyone wants to compare our intake just let me know we will send a free unit anywhere necessary. CV I am in Fresno California right below you.


I would like to say regardless of the arguing on this site with phantom505 he out-designed the lot offered at the time and to this point because his design has none of the “carb’ restrictions in the other more common units.


If you have purchased a phantom cold air intake please contact me through the domesticperformance.com “contact us link”. The e-mail address posted in writing on the site is wrong and for whatever reason my site will not let me change it. I am still working with the company managing my site. Yes I am very patient. Oh and they don’t outsource jobs to India.

P.S continued negative comments are counterproductive so if there is any issue you may have please just drop me an e-mail and I will be glad to phone you regarding any issues you may have.

Ty

 

<<Pulls up chair, makes some popcorn, watches &*&T hit fan>>

For my money, I will just read all about Matt's tets and go from there. I find that objective consistent testing is the best way to go about these things.

 

Matts tests??

Which intakes did he test?

Sorry no shiz hitting anything... Not actually sure what that was supposed to mean??

I agree consistent testing is the best way to go.

I did see one thread on a test that ended with all the "warm" air intakes in the same ballpark. You must also consider without a computer mod that will give any intake a chance to shine you will find the stock computer will hold the possible gains to the same level.

I really don’t have anything against any of the regular smog legal intakes and they are very simple to make/install and offer a cheap safe intake upgrade.
These smog legal intakes are not really in the realm of a performance oriented cold air intake. Usually performance means "for off road use only" I.e. the track. A comparison of any intake that does not use the hot recycled air from the engine to any intake that does not use this recycled blowoff would not really be fair. Especially once the hood is closed.

That said my response to this thread was intended to be more in response to delivery and site performance issues we encountered. Obviously we wanted to offer information as to how to reach us and let people know we were finally reachable.


Ty

 

So whats up guys?
There are about 5000000000 replys to this. Is this a good option? Anyone install one of these?
What do you think? I cant make any sence out of all these posts

 

In my case, as well as a few others, I don't have any problem with recycled
hot air, because of the cooler air being blown onto my CAI via the functional
hood scoop.

 

Do you have a tube coming from the engine used to recycle blowby. Oily air from your engine core.?

If so you’re cold air meets this recycled air (environmental reasons) and is heated by this hot air coming from the "intake” then you lose some performance.

I don’t want to rain on any parades so I wont go further.

I suggest instead of me “tellen it like it is” not a popular idea, look up ram air hood performance gains. This way you can get objective information.

Ty

 

Personally I prefer a ram air hood myself but for me the hood is not about the hp gain.. I would never buy a ram air hood and not attach it.

So nothing against your hood and really all you have to do is disconnect the recycled air from your intake. No big deal, but it requires a few cheap mods.

I really want to see a twin scoop hood for the magnum but again my personal idea of cool.

Ty

 

For what its worth, I sealed the intake box....the only air coming in is via the top of the hood.
I feel it is a far better benefit than having the air coming from an already heated driving
surface. There must be some benefit....I gained 4.78 mpg (highway) with that setup over
stock.