I read that article about the ultra low diesel and they said that it would lead to an increase in mileage, but has anyone else noticed a slight decrease since the switch? My buddy who has pretty much the same truck as me tracks his mileage religiously and said that since the switch he saw a slight decrease in mileage, that is until he took his timing box off. With the box off he said the mileage went back up to where it was before the switch. He babies his truck and had the timing box on there for a long time (2.5 years) and his driving style has not changed. He pulled the timing box because the stock clutch started slipping and has played with taking it on and off since he put a new clutch in.

 

The military is in THE LAND OF DIESEL !!

That aint drivin up the prices, but that's a great excuse for the gov to use. Just as Sereguial said, today the price is this, tomorrow it's that. Over here it's this, over there it's that. No rhyme or reason.

My Grandfather gave me some advice, andIthink ofit often in this situation ...

"Don't believe anyting that you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see"

 

I didn't read all the posts so i'm not sure if this was metioned. But most things in the store is transfered by semi. Semi company's charge according to transportation (truck price, trailer price, driver costs, etc. etc.) so when diesel raises the company has to charge more. So government is getting tax there. Plus most states have tax on the dollar from my understanding. could be wrong. So when prices go up stores have to charge more for the product. So more dollars equal more tax. Double tax beniefit there. Even if it's the a government caused problem, it's still an added bonus for them. Oh and here in Idaho around the treasure valley prices change but last time I checked gas was around 3.10 and diesel at the flying j was around 2.87 or so. Haven't been there in a while but diesel at the local shell station is 2.93 or so give or take. changes every couple days.No matter how much I complain, I'm still going to pay so it's not like I really pay attention any more. Now if everybody joined forces and say hey this is bull. Then maybe I might try to change something. Plus I heard that there was a **** pot of oil located up north that could last the entire world couple thousand years. Dont' know if this information is correct or not. But all the oil shortage stuff. Not so eager to buy into it. Especially since if oil was so short, you think they would rather spend more money on finding an alternitive energy source than raise fuel prices until there was none left and then we would have to do that anyways. This might be a bad post due to the fact that i didn't really keep up in the discussion. Something to think about though

 

Also according to my Mom who works for a truck company, the newer trucks designed to run on the lighter sulfer fuel and also the lowering of emissions are getting worse mileage than older ones. 99' Peterbilt with Detroit and a 06 Peterbilt with detroit. 99- 9-10 mpg 06 5-6. I've also look at the brand new trucks. I don't know about dodges but i'd imagine they're on the same path. 00 ford high teens low 20's. read an article on the new 08. said average was 14.3. heard concuring results from other people also I remember reading a post from drew saying more power requires more fuel. Absolutely correct but the new big trucks aren't producing any more power than the older trucks. According to many of the mechanics at the shop, the new emissions technology is actually reducing flow in the engine so that it can get hot enough to burn all of the containments. Kind of a lose/win situation. Lose money on buying grocery's products, diesel! Etc. + Less poision in the air less green house gasses less smog. Either way. Also according to her that the new fuel is actually harder on the older engines, kind of like when the switched from leaded gas to unleaded. Except slower. And biodiesel is hard on seals in the engine and I heard of mixed reports of people getting better mileage and people getting worse mileage. I stayed about the same. either way. I'm sure if you were to research this subject you'd hear two sides. Government side, Commerical side (from dodge etc.) (forinstance dodge told me that the new 6.7 motor was going to get better mileage than my 5.9), and consumer side with plus's and negatives.

 

So taxes on gas has nothing to do with gas....

Hmmmmm

I get it.

;o)

 

Ya might wanna read up on the health care system in Canada before WooHoo'n them ;o)

We all pay for health care one way or the other!!!!

I know that my mileage has been phenominal in my new rig and it only has 1000 miles on it. I figure it will increase over the next what 10,000 miles?

 

Yep..

The demand for diesel is extremely high right now and like it or not fellas "Supply and Demand" is real. I actually ran across a gas station last night where diesel was $3.40 WTF?? that's .20 higher than most other places around here.

 

Sorry Billy, but you're NEVER gonna convince me that demand is 2x more than it was prior to 6 years ago ( 9-11 ), and yet diesel fuel has gone up twice as much since then.

 

It's all good my friend I'm not trying to convince you I'm just stating my opinion based on research that's all. I think it's a good thing for diesel owners that so many more people are moving over to them (like me) and that the manufacturors are putting so much R&D into them because it will make them that much better and more efficient the only downside is higher demand for diesel fuel. Just remember that based on the rate that everything else has gone up the last 20 years Gasoline is WAY behind. I mean hell we're paying $3.00 for a bottle of water or an energy drink but crying about buying a gallon of gas??? haha

 

Billy, no offense, but I'm done with this thread. It just aggravates the hell outta me