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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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I'm almost ready to fly all you guys to a CTD get together, just need a lesson or two more.

The Captain has turned on "The No sheeting in your pants" sign and leave that tray table down your going to need it to hold on to. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueJeC..._197282-1.html
 
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Saw that yesterday on BBC...they said that Lufthansa is offering counseling for the mental anguish of that landing
 
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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And dry cleaning too I hope LOL
 
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Crosswind landings are fun....I'm a pilot and the planes I have flown usually have a 15-17 knot limit on the crosswind component. (I've pushed that limit a few times) This doesn't mean were limited to flying in under 15-17 knot winds....just the crosswind component. It can be a ton of fun flying in the wind. My freshman year in college, I went to Grand Forks, ND for the National Flight competition. One of the practice days there was an 35-40 knott wind right down the runway. You could turn final 1/4 mile from the runway at 800ft and still land on the edge of the runway. You came almost straight down. When I did my phase check for my commercial pilot license with our cheif flight instructor....we watched the GPS count down 5,4,3,2,1,0 then we watched it go 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. Yup, we were going backwards over the ground. That screwed with your head for a little bit, then it was like, "this is cool".

That pilot screwed the aproach up. Just like painting, a good job starts with good prep work. I see many pilots do the exact same thing. They fly the approach without the aircraft being lined up with the runway. They fly the entire aproach with the nose pointed in the wind and kick the aircraft straight at the last second. Which is what the pilot in the video did. That tail movement you see right before the wing hits the ground is the pilot trying to do this, not the wind. When I fly a crosswind approach I cross control the ailerons and the rudder. This keeps the airplane aligned with the runway for the entire final approach. It takes more effort during the approach, but it makes the landing much easier. I was commended for my crosswind landing technique by one of the judges in Grand Forks.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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I couldn't imagine being a passenger on that plane. I would definately drop a cha-lupa in my drawers for sure
 
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Saw that on Attack of The Show the other day.. it made top five in around the net.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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Dont they call that a "Crab" landing when they come in on a cross wind?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Dont they call that a "Crab" landing when they come in on a cross wind?
Here's a quick flying lesson for ya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosswind_landing

Number 1 is what the pilot in the video was doing.
Number 3 is what I prefer.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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This is a video taken from landings at Wellington Airport in New Zealand. This area is known for high crosswinds and makes for an interesting photo shoot of landings. Kudo's to these pilots!

http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ent=X-Wind.flv








 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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Crosswind landings are fun....I'm a pilot and the planes I have flown usually have a 15-17 knot limit on the crosswind component. (I've pushed that limit a few times) This doesn't mean were limited to flying in under 15-17 knot winds....just the crosswind component. It can be a ton of fun flying in the wind. My freshman year in college, I went to Grand Forks, ND for the National Flight competition. One of the practice days there was an 35-40 knott wind right down the runway. You could turn final 1/4 mile from the runway at 800ft and still land on the edge of the runway. You came almost straight down. When I did my phase check for my commercial pilot license with our cheif flight instructor....we watched the GPS count down 5,4,3,2,1,0 then we watched it go 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. Yup, we were going backwards over the ground. That screwed with your head for a little bit, then it was like, "this is cool".

That pilot screwed the aproach up. Just like painting, a good job starts with good prep work. I see many pilots do the exact same thing. They fly the approach without the aircraft being lined up with the runway. They fly the entire aproach with the nose pointed in the wind and kick the aircraft straight at the last second. Which is what the pilot in the video did. That tail movement you see right before the wing hits the ground is the pilot trying to do this, not the wind. When I fly a crosswind approach I cross control the ailerons and the rudder. This keeps the airplane aligned with the runway for the entire final approach. It takes more effort during the approach, but it makes the landing much easier. I was commended for my crosswind landing technique by one of the judges in Grand Forks.
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Brian, this topic reminds me of my own crosswind landing excitement. I took flying lessons at Duluth International Airport (formerly Duluth AFB) back in 1989-1990. The main runway is 9-27 (oriented exactly east-west), and it's huge (10,000+ feet long). One morning I took off for my second student pilot solo flight in a Cessna 150. My instructor told me to spend some time practicing some basic maneuvers in the practice area, and then come back to the field for three touch-n-goes. The wind was out of the south that morning, and the instructor told me to request the "crosswind runway" from the tower if the crosswind component was more than about 15 knots.

45 minutes later I'm flying back toward the home-drome, and tune into the recorded weather info on the VHF radio. The wind is out of the south at 24 kts, gusting to 30. I'm thinking this is a good time to try out that crosswind runway! I call the tower and request a touch and go on the southerly runway (Runway 21, I think). The controller replied that 21 was closed, how about Runway 27? I'm thinking, "Damn, a 24+ knot crosswind?" I didn't want to sound like a wussby declaring an emergency, or diverting to another field. I told the controller "27 will be fine, but this will be full stop."

I enter the downwind leg and the tower clears me to land. When I turn final the wind blasts me way off the runway centerline. Damn! I get lined up with the runway and try slipping into the wind using full left rudder and some right aileron. Nope, it's still blowing my little Cessnaoff the centerline. I don't have much altitude left, so I continue the full slip and use enough crab to stay lined up with the centerline. When I cross the threshhold I yaw out of the crab somewhat, just a few feet above the runway, and I start to drift laterally across the runway. I considered executing a go around, but I was about three seconds too late for that decision. I touched down with the left-main tire first, and by now I am drifting across the runway big-time. Fortunately the runway is 150' wide! When the right-main tire hit it skidded and chattered from the lateral motion. Please don't flip over! By the time the nose gear touched I had it basically going straight down the runway.

I had about 3/4 mile to taxi back to the FBO, which gave me a few minutes to release my fingernails from the yoke and slow down my heart! When I got back in the building the instructor asked, "Did you land on 27? Wasn't it too windy?" "No, it didn't seem too bad"I replied, packing up my pilotgear as nonchalantly as possible. Fortunately he didn't ask me why I went full stop after one landing. Maybe he saw past my cool demeanor and knew I was a little scared!
 
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