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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by alloro
Well considering that she's a Mom that took in 10 kids to raise and support that weren't her own, I'd say buying from a junkyard to save a few of those hard to come by dollars really isn't something to cringe over. It's the 15-20 year Veteran Techs that ran her in circles and charged her full price for everything that tend to make me cringe.

Cringe away sir. I don't know about the techs that ran her around in circles, but all my customers leave fixed and happy. Hey but if it makes you feel bold to take a shot at an EVIL Chrysler tech, then knock yourself out. I sleep fine at night. If I had a nickel for every customer that bought an ECM from a junkyard and made thier problems 2X worse ...well, i'd have a few bucks.

There are companies online that sell rebuilt ECMs very cheap.
 

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Old Nov 1, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Well anyway -- The last ECM I needed I got off EBAY for $65.00, which was a steal since the parts house wanted $250. Even though that wound up not being the problem, it is still in my 94 B250 5.2L and is running great.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TNtech
Hey but if it makes you feel bold to take a shot at an EVIL Chrysler tech, then knock yourself out. I sleep fine at night.
My post wasn't about taking any shot at any tech. My post was about the other side of the human story that most techs never seem to have a clue about. From what I read, the shot that was indeed taken was by...you towards both the poster with the problem for her chosen path in seeking help, as well as the "shade tree" mechanics that tried to help her.

I know your type, first you attack in a way to make yourself sound superior, then when you're called on it you play the innocent victim role, then finally it's the 'it doesn't bother me either way attitude'. The only one you're fooling with that 'holier than tho' attitude is yourself.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sparkzz
The last ECM I needed I got off EBAY for $65.00,
WOW! Imagine that, a used PCM for 1/4 the price and it works too. Who would've thought it was possible?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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LOL... I couldn't care less what you think. The number of kids someone has doesn't change the reality of the situation. Why do you think it does? How does that change what's wrong with car? How does that affect the price of parts? Do you have some solution that nobody else has invented yet that will diagnose and repair a car for 50 bucks? You think advice is only worthwhile if it's at a deep discount...seriously? Did I point her to the dealer?

My first post in this thread wasn't confrontational at all. You just have a problem with the content of my SIG and were looking for a cheap shot.
 

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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Well anyway -- The last ECM I needed I got off EBAY for $65.00, which was a steal since the parts house wanted $250. Even though that wound up not being the problem, it is still in my 94 B250 5.2L and is running great.
That's a 1994. When it didn't matter hardly at all as long it was the same engine. A 2000 can come equipped with SKIM and VTSS. If you don't get the right one you can lock up other modules and put yourself in a world of hurt. Chances are the guy at the salvage yard doesn't have a clue or doesn't care what he sells you as long as "that car looks like yours".
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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LOL... I couldn't care less what you think.
Ri-i-i-i-ight, of course you don't, that's why you keep trying to push your agenda!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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TNtech, many salvage yard operators know more about PCM and such than you are giving credit for. Yes the wrong PCM can cause problems and the ones I deal with know that. The majority will not sell you one unless the numbers match or in the case that the numbers is missing then they can verify that your vehicle and the donor one match up (engine, tranny and such). I do believe you have had bad run in with salvage yards, but not all salvage yards are like that. I am not defending that salvage yard parts are always the best choice but when money and/or time is tight they can be very beneficial.

The problem with the OP vehicle is not the salvage yard PCM, it is something electrical that is not communicating properly between the OEM equipment that was/is in the vehicle. Something that as of right now all whom have tried to help have not come across in our own vehicles. I did notice that you are an Chrysler electrical specialist and did not even suggest what this problem is or could be. I believe in this case you may not know either until able to see it first hand and run some tests on it. It is great that she is able to use the van even though limited until proper repairs can be made.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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That's a 1994. When it didn't matter hardly at all as long it was the same engine. A 2000 can come equipped with SKIM and VTSS. If you don't get the right one you can lock up other modules and put yourself in a world of hurt. Chances are the guy at the salvage yard doesn't have a clue or doesn't care what he sells you as long as "that car looks like yours".
In 94 there was no less than a half dozen different ECM available and they were not undeniably interchangeable. Then come 2000 there was no VTSS or SKIM option for these vans. Other modules, like what? There are no other modules, all vehicle operations are built into the PCM, right down to the voltage regulator, with the ABS system being the only notable exception. Even then, the ABS isn't dependent on any specific PCM. The RWAL or 4-wheel ABS systems are controlled by the ABS module, not the PCM.
 
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