Then I must have 8 million HP... Ba-wa-ha-ha-ha-ha [sm=guilty.gif]

what does that make Torque then? How much force I put on my... oh nevermind... this topic has now gone[sm=offtopic.gif]

 

LoL .... torque measures..... uhh....girth ?

 

best quote ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyway, apparently you're too old toknow what ricer math is so i'm just going to ingore your furious rebuttal to a concept that you don't understand.

everyone knows that hp is simply a calculation, but it's one based on REAL numbers that are happening at that point in time. not a car's weight from 6 months ago, a trap speed from last week and a 1/4 mile time from tomorrow night. a dyno is a measure of what a car is doing right now in these conditions. this is also why they vary greatly depending on a lot of variables, and from dyno to dyno. so why estimate using various guesses as to iniformation and put it into a formula when it's very easy to go and actually see what's going on right now.

just because something has been around a long time doesn't mean that it's good.....or even a valid. it simply means it's old.

 

Ignore away, this will be for anyone else whos mind is open to reason.
First of all, whatever your definition of ricer math is, ignoring simple helpful formulas available to you is just that...ignorant.
Second, a horsepower figure derived from 2 real numbers, (qtr time or qtr speed, and weight) will always and forever be as valid or even more so than a dyno sheet, and is in fact, even more pertinent due to the fact that I can weigh my car everytime I go to the track. A dyno number like you yourself just said is only valid at that time and on that machine. It is no more valid the day after when you are carrying groceries, idling in traffic and running only 93 octane. Plus (and I know you know this as well as anybody) turbo cars do not always dyno well. So the true measure, is infact what the car actually did in the qtr mile and the hp number calculated from that is and absolutely has to be fairly accurate.
I dont know about you, but, my cars weight does not change drastically from one time to the next. The only differences from one time to the next for me will be my own personal weight which only varies about 5 lbs season to season and the amount of fuel which I usually keep at around a qtr tank when I go to the track. Even so, if the weight was in question, my track has a scale on the return road so I will have the 2 most current numbers available every time I go.
Again, I fail to understand this fear of simple horsepower calculations based on two real numbers. It works equally for everybody.

 

just noticed that psi chick is making some pretty healthy hp. "400fwhp"

 

Maybe your weight doesn't change, but the track does ..... you can run a 13.2 and say you have 300hp but what happens when you go the next day and can't run under a 13.6......you didn't just loose 30hp did you ? .......Either way there is not a perfect measuring system for hp......but who gives a ****, it's all about how fast you can get your car down the track.

 

You are absolutely correct about the track. A dyno will read different day to day as well. With fwd being so traction handicapped, and tracks conditions never the same, then the calculation using mph and not e.t. is going to be a better number, because your mph does not vary as much as e.t in the qtr.
It is as I have said before, an estimate. It may not be accurate down to the tenth of a hp but it will be fairly close. Probably within 10.
If you bothered to look at the link I posted, you will see the calculator is able to use either e.t. or mph. Also I explained that in my example using e.t and mph both, The mph number was higher and the e.t was lower by over 50. This is a good indiction of the power the engine has, that I am unable to use, with only street tires.
This is useful info to me. I'm wasting 50 hp (or more) by not using slicks.

 

I like the quarter mile alot, butdo any of you know of builders for the road racing circuits. I have built full suspension on my car with light hp mods and am looking for someone who road races. Any of ya'll given that a try yet.

 

I havent road raced, only autocrossed. I would love to road race though.

 

head up to limerock. or watkins glen. or poconos. those are the major road racing tracks around here. a friend of mine does it and he's always bugging me to go with him, but it's just so damn hard for me to justify spending $300 on a single day of racing.