well iknew that. but would i get the same affect if i bought the stage 3 and the compressor wheel?

 

no. it's a different turbo. it doesn't matter what you do to a s3 turbo it's not a 50 trim, and vice versa.

 

The point of stage 4 is to get big power and beat up on whimpy lil' stage 3 turbo's ! ... lol @ psichick.

 

hahahahaha

track times > dyno numbers

 

I'll post my times next season when I get a set of slicks.........and if you still beat me I'll just post up the dyno sheet instead. *flexes* lol

 

hahahaha it's a deal....i have some plans myself

 

is there any other good kits out there i should maybe take a look at?
the reason i cant decide about the stage 3 and 4 thing is because the whole tunning thing.

 

So psichick I know that you have a S3 and so DO I! Is all that you did to get 400 whp is do a good tune. If so that is awesome! I WILL do that. I have a S3 w/out toys. So if you could please tell me what you have to get 400 fwhp or atleast tell me if you would...what I can do to the S3 and get more power out of it. Sorry if I'm a thread stealer!

 

i did quitea but more than just tune, and my dyno numbers are actually a little off, i was having knock issues that day. i'm actually more in the 425 area. here's a list of my power mods:

Mopar Performance Stage 3 w/ Toys
2004 Transmission w/ Quaiffe LSD
Clutch Masters Stage 4 6-puck
Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel
Visteon Radiator
AGP Stage 3 WGA
PTPerformance Check Valve
180 Degree TStat
Maddog 58% STS w/ Booger Bushings
Psi-Fi Dogbone MM
Lorenzo 60mm Throttle Body
TurboSmart Super Sonic BOV
JMB 3" Cast Iron CAI
Denso ITV22 w/ 10mm High Temp Wires
Exhaust Depot Hot & Cold Pipes
Exhaust Depot Beast Intercooler
Crane #14 Cams
Unorthodox Cam Gears
DCR PnP Head w/ Oversized Valves
DCR Head Studs
Devils Own W/I Kit
Maxx Fab 3" Downpipe w/ Race Pipe
Maxx Fab 3" Stage 3 O2 Housing
Dual Black Chrome Apexi N1 Turbo Mufflers

for me it's more about track times than it is dyno numbers. i know i can pull a low 11 with the way the car sits now. if i can get a 11.3/11.2 out of her i'll be happy. that's my goal, i don't really care what a dyno says

 

Wow that is quite an extensive list!!! I was seriously considering the cams...but do you think that I should definately solve my traction issues first. I know you told me about the lower control arm bushings from rage-tek.com. So I am definately considering those. I just installed an upgraded clutch. And would I have to tune with the cams....and does that require new valves,springs,retainers and things like that. How much power do you think that I could gain just from cams???....Thanks Alot for your help!!